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glykeria
03-09-2006, 08:58 PM
What is this new stuff about crystal kids, born with cleared karmas??? If that is so then why are they born... I could be wrong probably am but I would love to see some discussion on this subject. What is the Birth years for these Crystal KIds??? Also can someone enlighten me on what exactly an Indigo child is and when is that birth range.
Thanks
Glykeria
Check out http://www.sunfell.com/indigo.htm
glykeria
03-09-2006, 10:23 PM
Kite
Thanks for the website some interesting info. But couldn't anyone going through a midlife crisis have the symptoms of transitioning into a crystal from an indigo. I am 39 and have suddenly felt an urge to do more good to find the higher meaning in life to find a life purpose or path different than the one I am currently on. Could I be indigo or just a normal transition into middle age. I also have always felt that I was an old soul and was very misunderstood as a child. I was a geek who played role playing games with the older geeks. Is there something in every Indigos chart that is not in the charts of regular mid life crisis people? I am just here to learn anyone with any views post away.
Forever a student
Glykeria
Lapis
03-10-2006, 12:18 AM
glykeria,
Hi and first of all, welcome to your Uranus Oppostion! It was a highly charged, archetypal and life changing time for me when I went through it a few years ago. From what you've said it sounds like you're being triggered by it to transition into more of yourself and that's what these major life transits are all about IMO. Take advantage of it and morph into greater aspects of yourself over the next 3 or 4 years.
Back to the Indigo/Crystal business. Almost a year ago I was led in strange ways to discover the Sunfell site - Kite left a link to it above. Up to that point, I'd never even heard of this term, "Indigos" or "Crystals". I'd discovered the term "Wanderer" a few years earlier and totally related to that, which to me is very similar to Indigo. Crystal however, is another level all together!!!
Im 54 and incarnated as a Wanderer or Indigo for lack of a better word. So when I finally found other people talking about what life is like from this standpoint, I was ecstatic. Then I entered, what's being called the transition to Crystal back in 1998, and I didn't think I'd physically survive the whole process. It was devestating, horrible and took me years. Now I'm learning how to live from this new frequency.
Personally I believe (because I've lived many of these things long before I'd ever heard about them!) that many of us are triggered at major life transits like Saturn Return (29-31) and Uranus Opposition (39-43) and also Chiron Return (49-51) and these two things are related. Many of us have set up inner safe-guards for ourselves prior to incarnating and we use many of the normal planetary transits to not only do what they do anyway, but even deeper levels of activation and integrations are added to or timed with the astrological transits. IOW's we're "killing two birds with one stone" as the saying goes.
If the planetary transit energy (and/or cosmic) is there naturally, why not have it also activate much deeper layers within ourselves if we are Wanderers or Indigos or Old Souls or Light Workers etc.? The astrological transit energies are used in deeper ways at deeper soul levels to trigger, activate, very intense energy changes in Wanderers, Indigos, Light Workers and so on. I also know that many of these type of intense energy transformations are also triggered by the more 'cosmic' type of events like the 1998 reentry of the Sun into the Photon Band. The other huge one we're into right now is transiting Pluto across the Galactic Center. This one transit will trigger activations and changes in so many people across the planet.......it's very exciting!
I just realized that I probably didn't even answer your question! :| Honestly, I don't know what the situation with the so-called "Crystal Kids" is because as yet, I haven't seen very many of them over the past few years. But things are changing so fast now, who knows, they may be able to incarnate more safely now that the Elder Grunts (that's a semi-joke everyone) have finished all the prep work energetically.
Obviously, I too am interested in Wanderer/Indigo/Crystal/Lightworker people and how this is affecting us all today and tomorrow. I hope this topic is one that others find interesting also.
m_Adison
03-10-2006, 01:13 AM
Holy ****.
I was reading about the Indigo people... crystal kids. ahhhhh.... I've never heard of them... or anything like that. (bred in the church :lol: )
I'm almost positive that I am one.
I just don't want to throw all of my **** out on the table... on the forum. My life is a very crazy story to tell... and I'm a very secretive person when it comes to the 'real stuff'
I need to talk to someone. This is crazy... I've been searching for years. For an explanation.
ah.
I need some time to think.
:|
Lapis
03-10-2006, 01:41 AM
m Adison,
...."bred in the church" Oh that was great! :lol: :lol:
I highly suggest going to Sunfell's site and reading every article she's written about Indigos and Crystals or as she calles them "Octarines". After doing that you'll know if you're an Indigo or not. Also if you've gone through the transition into Crystal, especially if you're middle aged! http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8365/falldownfaintemo1ct.gif
But, because you had the reaction to this you did, I'd sure bet that you're an Indigo. It effects you that way when you finally connect with it consciously. Go breath and read and then come back and talk or ask whatever questions you dare. You'd be surprised at this point, how many others of us there are who've lived highly strange lives up to this point! I'm happy you connected with this info now. :wink:
Here's the link to Sunfell's site/forums where you can read posts of other Indigos and Crystals of all ages. Sunfell herself is I believe in her late 40's at this point. There isn't a lot of current posting going on there but lots of info from past posts to learn from.
http://p209.ezboard.com/bsunfellsislandsofsanity
m_Adison
03-10-2006, 01:58 AM
I just felt it .. just now. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH.
I'm very sensitive right now... seriously.. I don't know what to think. I'm in a kind of shock. I'm feeling pretty dizzy.. right now.
It's just insane. I read .. haven't finished reading.
let's just say everything I read is inevitably me... it's crazy.. I have every symptom. Every single one.
It scares me... the other side scares me...it always has. But, I can't escape it at the same time.
:|
ahhhhhhh.. I am going to finish reading.. and then I don't know what I'm going to do.
I just don't know what to think right now. ---
I will reply soon.. I just need a moment. I'm feeling almost high right now.. and it's creeping me out.. like I'm seeing .. ahh .. I sound like a lunatic. I will write later when I have calmed down.. mentally.
Thank you so much for my resurrection. You don't even know how much this is going to change my life.
-until then.
m_Adison
03-10-2006, 02:01 AM
Oh yeah, I just turned 20 feb, 9th. I would be the 3rd generation. 1986.
Lapis
03-10-2006, 02:05 AM
Yes I do sweetie! Fly high and remember. :D Don't worry about any of it, it's simply your time to connect with this knowldge now and remember. Take one giant leap at a time! :wink: Talk more with us when you can. The best to you!
glykeria
03-10-2006, 03:23 AM
Lapis
I actually think I am a "lightworker" and from what I have been coming to understand the Uranus opposition is the reason for this new feeling. Yea Uranus I think :? I am 39 and have also been led recently or intensely drawn toward searching for SOMETHING DEEPER, it is like I know that I am capable of an intense awareness but of what I am still struggling with or fighting the urge to explore subjects that are so far removed from my NORM. I was not bred in the church but I was baptized Eastern Orthodox a pretty structured patriarchial religion, so I know my answers do not lie there. I have a new question which was overlooked before in all of the excitement of the subject :D
Ready?
Here it is open to answers from all I would like to here lots of opinions on this.......well actually there are 2 questions.
Is there something specific in the birth chart of an Indigo child, light worker, wander ETC...... that distingushes them from the normal rank and file
Is there any difference between what most call Midlife crisis and what many of the symptoms of being Indigo is... I have many of the symptoms not all but many and so do lots of people my age...
Still Seeking
Glykeria
Light
03-10-2006, 09:05 AM
Welcome Glykeria
I'm only a tad older than you, and know some of what you're going through. :? Lapis pointed me in the right direction, and I realise I'm not going totally mad. (Thanks again Lapis. :D ) And the same two questions????
Another book Lapis reccommended and I reccommend as compulsory reading for EVERYONE over 35 is " Barbara Hand Clow: Kundalini:the liquid light of sex". It doesn't answer the questions, though, but it does explain form an Astrological persepective the changes we go through.
Like you (and Mad) I'm an AM I/Aren't I?? :D
Catch you all again, later!
Take care
hel
m_Adison
03-10-2006, 11:14 AM
I know... you either know or you don't, right?
I don't know exactly how to approach what I'm grasping... I'm quite intoxicated.
:mrgreen:
-the more I think about it... the more I want to hide.
this is what was meant to be. I was meant to stumble across that website.. and in time... everything will work it's way out...
but, I have a contradiction of beliefs.. I guess I wouldn't say beliefs.. but, how I was raised... this all seems wrong..
but, it's so real. :|
SO REAL. I mean... I am an indigo. I just need to accept it.. It's hard when your head is pulling you this way and that... (when I say 'bred in the church' I mean.. seriously ... 3 times week and church camp. - - - I mean.. the only reason my daddy ain't a preacher .. is because, my pappa had a girl - - hahah, really, though.. my grandpa .. and and great grandpa.. + are preachers of a VERY conservative, christian church... my extreme personality is so contradictory.. I mean.. they don't even allow musical instruments.. and HELLO!!!!~! Music is my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
ugh... believe me.. it's real. I know from experience.. visions...ahh... ****.. I'm just a bundle of mixed emotions right now...
sorry, I'm really not with it right now... I got myself drunk after I went to the website about indigos. I feel like I've had the realization of my life.
If you've experienced it.. you know what I'm talking about.
I'm too hidden to just say what I mean.. I would rather beat aorund the bush... :)
But, I've had visions... dreams.. memories... insights.. my intuition is as sharp as my intellect... and it scares me.
really... I've had some very SCARY encounters with the other side.
and... being self-conscious doesn't help.
I don't know what to do now... I guess keep reading.. and writing.. and learning...
I need to learn how to manage my 'outer' talents.
I have my music under control.. but, this is a whole other ball game.
I've been ignoring it my whole life.. trying to make it stop... my ablilities. It a burden and a blessing.. just like I said about the 'aquarius' generation.
ahh... I need an astrological psychologist.
haha.. I really hate psychologists.. I'm a rehab veteran. I'm telling you.. I ******* hate... doctors/psycologists.
Mind over matter, PEOPLE! ****... how stupid is our society getting?
-confused-
m.
Lapis
03-10-2006, 08:21 PM
But, I've had visions... dreams.. memories... insights.. my intuition is as sharp as my intellect... and it scares me.
really... I've had some very SCARY encounters with the other side.
A very honest and powerful statement Adison! And guess what? It indicates that you're using more of both sides of your brain, hence your intuition and intellect being equally sharp as you said. It only scares you I'd guess, mainly because it sounds like you haven't been around many other people with this same ability. This more whole brained functioning and awareness. Humanity is evolving right now and it is and can be "SCARY"!
Another aspect of this (you mentioned about having "encounters with the other side") that is very common when one is first relearning (in this current life) about using more of one's whole brain which naturally includes awareness of and interactions with, nonphysical realities and beings. Usually in the beginning of this learning and integrating process, we do encounter many of the lower or "scary" negative forces/energy/beings etc. The big question is why???
Very simply, they're "Tests", "Initiations", and if you fall apart early on when first encountering the other polarity!!! aka negative and scary forces, then you're not yet ready to move on to the next learning phase and level. But if you do face these different scary forces and beings, then you've sort of passed this early Initiation and will continue on with the soul work of "Polarity Resolution" in all ways and on many levles both inside YOU and in the outer physical world and the inner nonphysical realms. That's a hell of lotta energy/archetypal/karmic/personal and collective stuff to deal with huh? BUT.......... that's exactly what most all "Lightworkers and Wanderers and Indigos and Crystals and Old Souls" etc. etc. are supposed to be doing in this lifetime during these huge astrological Age changes and all the rest of it!
As for your personal (long family) religious beliefs and probably being an Indigo or Lightworker.........I'd bet that its your spiritual 'job' or karma (I don't mean "bad" at all.....just the opposite!) to be what you are in the midst of these people to help remind them that there's much more beyond what they believe! Do you see what I'm trying to say? You may be the Lightworker/Indigo within your genetic family line to help awaken them? Again, no easy task but this is what Lightworkers (and all the others) do during these intense planetary/cosmic changes.
Take another couple deep breaths and we'll continue this discussion if you want. :)
Lapis
03-10-2006, 10:05 PM
Lapis
I actually think I am a "lightworker" and from what I have been coming to understand the Uranus opposition is the reason for this new feeling. Yea Uranus I think :? I am 39 and have also been led recently or intensely drawn toward searching for SOMETHING DEEPER, it is like I know that I am capable of an intense awareness but of what I am still struggling with or fighting the urge to explore subjects that are so far removed from my NORM.
Is there something specific in the birth chart of an Indigo child, light worker, wander ETC...... that distingushes them from the normal rank and file?
Is there any difference between what most call Midlife crisis and what many of the symptoms of being Indigo is...? I have many of the symptoms not all but many and so do lots of people my age...
Still Seeking
Glykeria
Glykeria,
Your first paragraph does sound typical of Uranus Oppostion energies making you feel like you're going to fly out of your skin and mind!!! Understand that repeated Kundalini energy flashing up your spine and lighting up your brain, flashing through your body/being, is part of the Uranus Opposition and this alone will change you in huge ways! I believe that if your soul has set up prior to incarnation in this life, your Uranus Oppostion to be a multiple leveled spiritual wake up call.......a major life transit that's ALSO going to trigger, activate, like a "timed release capsule", deeper levels of spiritual awakening and consciousness then yes, this one transit is gonna "rock your world"!
I highly recommend that you DON"T fight the urge to explore new subjects or this Uranus Oppostion transit can cause a lot of physical damage. This is super powerful Uranian energies and you and I don't know what your soul has planned for your growth at this time. I'd say go with the flow of Uranian energies and try to be as conscious as you can during the whole Initiation. And get the book hel mentioned because IMO it's a sanity saver for all Lightworkers/Indigos/Wanderers/Crystals going through all of the major lift transits, with Uranus Opposition carrying the biggest 'punch'.
Now, to the hard questions! You and many other people have asked if there are things in our natal charts that directly, clearly, indicate whether or not we or others are indeed Indigos, Wanderers, Crystal, Lightworkers, Old Sousl etc. Even if one is "Psychic", "Empathic", etc. Where is that magical physical astrological evidence in the natal chart that as you said, "distinguishes them from the normal rank and file" :?: :?: :?:
Glykeria, we may need to move this thread to the "Spiritual" forum!
You know how when you meet someone for the first time you sense what that person is all about? How you can tell at lightspeed if this person is one that you're drawn to or repelled by? Or just feel uncomfortable with? Not much "thought" with this whole process but tons of inner fast sensings and knowings at another more intuitive level? Other parts of you besides your linear thinking mind are used at moments like this and rarely questioned because you trust it.
There are IMO, many different things in our natal charts that indicte if we carry the tools to vibrate faster, higher, outside the norm, to perceive outside the box of physicality. Things like strong water signs and houses, things like strong Moon and all of the Outer Planets, things like strong but highly balanced and sane air in our chart and other things. But, to fine tune this down into 2-3 or more "things" in the natal chart screaming blatantly that this person, in this life, is an Indigo or a Wanderer or a Lightworker ect.???
Personally I feel that to answer those type of questions we need to use the parts of ourselves, our expanded selves and not our linear intellectual minds. It just dosen't work that way from what I've learned and experienced. (I can hear some other forum members wanting to rip my hair out of my scalp about now! I know the feeling :lol: ) To answer these types of questions we've GOT to consider where the soul is at during this particular incarnation. Which level and frequency is this soul working from and through in this incarnation? If more advanced then yes, he'll use his natal tools in a totally different manor than a soul who's not ready to go there yet and wants to work on other issues first. It's not completely about the natal placements- the physical vehicle- but about who's in the drivers seat then and where the driver wants to go and how well he can keep that vehicle on The Path........which ever one that is in that incarnation.
Frequency vibrates with like frequencies (and harmonics) and if you've spent other (past/future) incarnations (both physical and non) learning how to maintain a particular higher level frequency/awareness, then you will instantly recognize other people who vibrate at or near the same level you are. These souls incarnate into physicality now who are Indigos, Crystals, Wanderers, Lightworkers recognize each other mainly through like energy frequencies. We sense each other through similar energy signatures we emanate and it's like reconnecting with really old much loved family members we haven't seen for ages.
to be continued.......if there's further interest that is. :)
glykeria
03-10-2006, 11:01 PM
Lapis
maybe we do need to move this thread, I need to say that I read the Sunfell fourms and found many answers I also saw many similarities. I do believe exactly what you say I have set up a spiritual awakening to coincide with the uranus oppisition. How smart my soul must be to set this event to a time in my life where I am I feel I can be able to handle this emotionally. I know I have been led to you and this fourm by a greater power. I also say that when I read your words I feel a connectedness to you in my soul I feel as if I know you like you are an old friend :) I am ready to have it rock my world!!! As I am learning I feel as if I am becoming more alive, more aware, learning things that I really already knew kind of confusing but I believe you will understand. I will get the book as I want to keep my sanity.
I have always been very intuitive about people and I have met people and often wonder why some people that appeared to be "good people" just rubbed me the wrong way so glad I am not crazy as this sense is becoming stronger now. Sometimes I am so repelled by a person it makes it very hard to be around them and in my occupation RN it is especially difficult if that person is my patient. I feel as if I am waking up from a deep deep sleep and that the world I am used to existing in has changed. I hope that my soul is ready for this change.
thank you Lapis I will see ya on the spiritual fourm for more of these disscussions.
Glykeria
Lapis
03-10-2006, 11:33 PM
glykeria,
"I hope my soul is ready for this change."
It is and that's why all this RE-learning things that you DO already know! :) You're being triggered probably through your Uranus Opposition energies and others no doubt, to bring into full conscious awareness, the fact that you are and always have been an "Indigo" or "Lightworker" or whatever term resonates the best to you. So much of what all of us are going through now has to do with our sense of "self" expanding greatly to include much grander and larger aspects of ourselves. It's always been there, but we weren't capable of integrating consciously these much larger parts of ourselves until now. This process is also called by many Lightworkers - the "Ascension" process!
We have to do this in little baby steps, small layers, small energy increments year after year otherwise the huge sudden increase in energy would simply destroy our minds and bodies. So its more like - Slow Motion Ascension Process from 1987 through 2012! :lol:
Thank you for your kind words but believe me, when its time for us to get triggered, we will in the strangest of ways. Just like you and Adison, when it was time for me to consciously connect with this Indigo and Crystal information, I was pushed by unseen hands right to Sunfell's site, and she's hard to find! She calls that site "islands of sanity" for just that reason!!! :wink: Welcome Home.
m_Adison
04-07-2006, 10:23 PM
I lost my internet there for a while.. but, now I live next to the library.
woo hoo.
---- hmm... continuing this discussion.. I haven't had much time to research more about this. I need to. I'm having weird transitions in my life right now... I finally feel the need to stop partying. HAH. Right.
I'm trying to seek better things in life... get back in the game with my music... I was gone there for a while... about 5 years. 5 years of wasted time... ugh...
After I read about the indigo children. . . I knew I was one... there isn't anything on the list that I haven't experienced. It really scared me when I read it.. because, it was like reading my life... I haven't been able to form attachments... and I've always been searching for something.. I don't know why.. but, I move all the time.. I just can't stay in one spot.. half of that could be that I'm aquarius... but, it's to the max. My mind is searching for something.. it has always been... I just didn't know exactly what. I know things.. people.. you can't lie to me... it's impossible. But, at the same time I feel great sadness.. my compassion and empathy is my biggest weakness... so, I can never turn a person down when in need... even if I hate their guts. Lately, I started picking up more and more. . . I've kinda just pushed it out of my mind... and tried to ignore it ... after I read about it... I notice it now more than ever... and I am always sick. ALWAYS. Unexplainably sick... Nothing is medically wrong with me.. I just get sick... Heart palpitations.. I get those BAD. I thought that there was something wrong with my heart... so, I got it checked out... and they thought that I was crazy. The tingling in my head... ha. Yeah. Certain places I go... I feel energy that I can't explain.. and see things. I'm not saying I'm psychic... and I don't want anyone to think I'm talking out my ***... but, I have to do something. I feel like I'm not in my head half of the time... because, I can see people. It's weird.. I can't explain it.. but, I started having dreams again. - - - I can take myself out of dreams... wake myself out of dreams.. talk to myself in dreams... when I'm dreaming.. I know. I used to have it mastered pretty well, but... now.. I'm getting INSANE vivid dreams. Just 2 days ago...I drempt something about my life... and it happened.. it's just weird... that's it.
well well- that's enough venting for me... I'll be back tomorrow.- - - thanks for listening... I am a troubled soul.
-until then-
Empath
04-07-2006, 11:03 PM
I read all of the Indigo stuff and it's like the writer is used me as a template for an essay. If what she wrote is Indigo, then I am Indigo.
Many very right-on comments, for example, she mentions computer programming and languages. I am en editor by trade, never took a programming course, but was hired as a proofreader for a company that localized software, help, and user guides into 16 different languages. Not only could I proofread languages I had never seen before -- like Finnish and Korean -- day 1 of this job was my first computer experience -- I couldn't even get the cursor to move correctly! Within 2 weeks, I was editing menus and resizing dialog boxes in multiple languages! Now I am a bonafide technical writer and do occassional QA -- developers cringe when I do QA because I install the program and "ask" it to show me its worst. And it usually does break in an unexpected way. If I can't break it within 30 minutes, it's rock solid.
I am a Boomer, born in 1956 and totally acculturated, but I am Indigo. See ... the strange thing to me is that I tend to think that the description written by Sunfell is fairly easy to come by, not at all eye-opening to me, for almost all of my friends fit pretty well in the descriptions too. Indigo could well be a description of "former" Hippies (not really, losing hair is not the same as cutting it :wink: ). Coming from the culture, and reading Sunfell's essays, it is really hard to tell the difference.
So are the Flower Children -- the ones who really DO believe in Peace, Love , and Understanding -- the original Indigos, or is Indigo the new Hippie?
Lapis
04-08-2006, 12:36 AM
YIPPIE this thread is going again! I'm so glad you're back mAdison, I wondered if you'd overloaded and just needed to think, feel and process for awhile. Please don't worry, there's nothing "wrong" with you, but there's a lot that's very right! :) I'm going to add another link to the April 1, 2006 'latest alert' from Karen Bishop. Why you ask? Because I've heard from many different people over the past month or so about the extremely wierd dreams they and myself have been having.
I'm going to start a new thread in "Spiritual" that will be for discussing our weird physical pains, illnesses etc which are directly connected to the ascension process we're going through. From Feb. 1998 I started the transformation process into Crystal (I hate having to use these words, terms but all this stuff is hard enough to clearly discuss!) and in some ways I'm still going through it.....or it's just a continuation of the ascension process. Point is, that there were long years during this time that I honestly didn't think I'd physically or mentally survive the transition to another state. I mention this only because it sounds like you too (and I think Empath is also) are having intense physical body transformations and toxic reactions etc. Like I said, I'll start another thread about just this huge issue.
Glad your back with us Adison. http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/898/rainbowface8fe.gif
Ready, Set, Go!
April 1, 2006
Greetings!
We're finally beginning to feel a bit of forward movement after a very long lull. Currently, new information is arriving for us that will serve to support our new endeavors and the new spaces that we will be filling. Yesterday morning I awoke and immediately knew, “uh, oh. I don't belong in this space anymore.”
With so many new manifestations due to arrive this year, it resulted in an immense time of integrating and realigning. We cannot move forward until everything is in place and where it needs to be. We have made great progress so far in regard to integrating and realigning at inner and higher levels, and now we will begin realigning in regard to the little pieces that need to arrive in the physical world that will begin the process of the bigger manifestations.
During times of bigger shifts, I usually wake up in the morning feeling as if I don't belong where I am waking up! Perhaps some of you have also had this experience. This means that the aligning within us has made great progress, as our physical reality is not yet matching our new and higher vibration.
Another interesting phenomenon many are currently experiencing is the wild and crazy dreams. These dreams are almost like acid trips in that they are so very bizarre, intense and may appear to make no sense. These dreams are all about things we are releasing. I love these dreams for two reasons: 1. They enable us to release while we are asleep, which is so much easier and more pleasant than releasing while we are awake, and 2. We are releasing these feelings and experiences that manifested as distortions and misaligned energies within us in the form of “issues” because……….we will never have to experience them or create them ever again .
..............
Wishing you heaven in your heart, starlight in your soul, and miracles in your life in these miraculous times,
Karen
For further reading: www.whatsuponplanetearth.com (http://www.whatsuponplanetearth.com)
[Moderator edit - due to Copyright protection (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/announcement.php?f=79).]
Lapis
04-08-2006, 01:21 AM
I read all of the Indigo stuff and it's like the writer is used me as a template for an essay. If what she wrote is Indigo, then I am Indigo.
Many very right-on comments, for example, she mentions computer programming and languages.....
I am a Boomer, born in 1956 and totally acculturated, but I am Indigo....
So are the Flower Children -- the ones who really DO believe in Peace, Love , and Understanding -- the original Indigos, or is Indigo the new Hippie?
Empath,
Sorry for tearing apart your quotes! When I read some of your posts, you remind me in many ways of Sunfell. I think she's now 48 or 49 (a Libra if memory serves me) so you're about the same age even! I'm 54 and I think that by the mid to late 50's another level of Indigos incarnated in mass here. There's been stages, levles, groups of us incarnating and each of these groups come in with different 'job's to do to open this planet up to higher Light/knowledge etc. So now, the young ones in their late teens and early 20s are able to do their 'jobs' faster and easier because us older groups have broken up the major aspects of negative energy here. Each group is so important and highly specialized.
As you correctly asked, many (but not all of course) of the original 'Hippies' or 'Flower Children' are both Wanderers and Indigos. We incarnated in mass at that time to literally change the energies on Earth. (The Pluto in Leo group or a large number of them I should say) We were the first large group to come in here either openly remembering that we came from elsewhere, or spent many years waking up to this fact. To me these two terms, Wanderers and Indigos, are very similar with the group from your age on, carrying more and more of the pure Indigo consciousness and attitude that's so clearly recognizable in Sunfell and her works.
I'm going to go off on one of my personal beliefs based on memories and info now about some of these different groups. Of course the edges blur and blend and it can't be laid out and cut n' dried as easily as this! So having said that, do a lot of blending and overlapping to what I'm going to say next.
I feel that a massive number of us Pluto in Leo folks were also directly connected to all that happened around the time of Atlantis and ancient Egypt at the cusp of the Great Ages of Virgo and Leo. Just opposite our now! IOWs karmically and energetically many of us Boomers, menopausal Boomers (return of the Goddess in mass! :lol: ) were involved in the good and not so good stuff that happened in these ancient civilizations and consciousnesses - Lemurian/Atlantian. Many of us had to do with the downfall of Atlantis, and many others of us were there at that time preparing earth and humanity for all the chaos and imbalances that would happen after that mega planetary catastrophy.
Many of us incarnated and were indeed 'the Hippies'. I prefer the Pleiadians term of "System Busters"! :mrgreen: And since then there's just been huge groups incarnating after us, each carrying specific levles of higher energies/consciousness, all the way up to the young ones of today like mAdison and so many others. My brain is turning to mush and I've only gotten half way through this, so I'll try again later to add some more to this.
Some of us Indigos are freedom junkies - espcially those of us who feel an infinity with Andromeda.
I think Janis Joplin (or rather Kris Kristofferson the writer) had it right when they said "freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose". I've spent a lifetime learning what that phrase really means.
I've been spending much of the day thinking about what I want to do to celebrate my upcoming 50th birthday later this year. Nothing seems to matter like it used to when I think about traveling to exotic places or pampering myself one way or another. I feel like I want to go into a cave, build a fire and meditate. Indigos must be having a hard time as a group right now. I sense this same kind of "been there done that - got the t-shirt" kind of feeling with a lot of people. Or maybe it's my Chiron..I don't know.
I watched the Merchant of Venice last night, starring Al Pacino as Shylock. I was very sad that this character had found himself living the greatest tragedy of all - irrelevancy. A religion no longer annointed, embracing a law that had moved from harsh judgement to mercy and losing one's ability to separate by claiming a higher moral ground. I guess Shakespeare was an Indigo too - revealing our tragic circumstances that keep repeating themselves until the players decide to get off the merry-go-round.
Indigo=Blue :cry:
I'm beginning to think that the Indigos are the pyschic gestalt Seth refers to as the Second Coming Seth (http://www.thenewgnosis.org/thesethiangnosisoldandnew.htm#_Toc68849518)
Lapis
04-08-2006, 10:57 PM
Kite,
YEEEEES!!! We Wanderers/Indigos/Lightworkers etc., usually incarnate in large numbers during the critical periods when one astrological Age is ending and the next one is starting up. We're like cosmic Age Cusp Change Initators! :wink: And as is the norm with this, we usually aren't welcomed here with open arms, minds, or hearts. We come to surf the new major planetary energies and initiate change at the astrological Age changes.....and lots of people don't like this no matter who's doing it for whatever the reasons!
You know how the Cardinal signs 'initiate' or get things going? Think of this same type of energy but much larger and being done by certain soul groups or Rays or whatever you want to call them. Today they're called Indigos/Wanderers/Starseeds/Lightworkers etc. What were they/we called at the Aries/Pisces cusp change over?!?
But, this time is far more powerful and important because we're finishing up numerous different cycles within other cycles within even more cycles.
I just read your post and Seth quote on the Channeled Material thread and I wanted to say so many different things. I've read and reread all of the Seth and Jane Roberts books over the years, but I'd forgotten that he'd talked about that issue.
About your post prior to this last one.......You said certain things in it that are exactly the same things I've said, the same exact things I've been and am still feeling. For over a year now the feeling of.....I just don't want to do this ANY MORE! I don't want and I will NOT play the game by their rules any longer. Their times run out and our time has returned once again so lets get on with this whole business!!! It's right around the cosmic corner my fellow Indigo Lightworker.
Also wanted to mention that Chiron Return does indeed bring into one's conscious mind and heart Chiron's big dilemma. How to continue living with so much pain, or how to die when he can't really! There isn't anything 'wrong', you're just in a huge transition and 'crisis state' due to Chiron Return.
Empath
04-09-2006, 12:12 AM
It seems that every conversation somehow winds itself back to Chiron ! :wink:
Kite, I'm right there with you on the Chiron return thing.... I call the "been there done that (aka is that all there is?)" feeling existential ennui.
Deal with bouts of it my entire life. Not so much depression -- well, maybe, huh -- but a true ...sigh... realization of what needs to happen and what's going on.... and my innate human inadequacies....
...but then, at that moment of inner bleakness, my cosmic radio will play a song -- it happens all the time for me, in part because I live in one of the best radio listening areas world, Philadelphia (I could write a book about the prescient musical awareness in Philly)
so tonight, the song is "I'll Be Long Gone" by Boz Scaggs, I dedicate it for all Wanderer Indigo Lightworkers w/ existential ennui:
I'll be long gone
by the time you make up your mind
gotta make my own way 'round the kind of misery I find
I'll send you my best of regards and the rest
I leave up to your own sense of time
Yes I'm going to Get Up and Make My Life Shine
Yes, I'm gonna get up and make my life shine
I've made up my mind
to Make My Life Shine
and think of this Indgio = blue = indigo blue jeans
who popularize blue jeans = Indigo hippies!
what "goes with everything"? = indigo blue jeans
Very nice inspirational message Empath. And Lapis, your empathy is always well received.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the "fix" can't come from the usual suspects. External diversions won't solve for the pain. It's just by going through it that you eventually feel better. Here is another interesting link on that Gnostic site about pain and depression I found helpful What is the Meaning of Pain? (http://www.thenewgnosis.org/gnosisandbasiclifequestions.htm#_Toc69799961)
m_Adison
04-10-2006, 06:30 PM
Empath.. the words are moving.
I will be forever alone. - - in my state of mind. Not my man.. or any person I know understands. It is not just a feeling of pain from a bruised childhood... pain for me is something more like --experience empathy for the world, understanding then turns in to sadness -- then feelings of emptiness arise -- because, no one else gives a ****.
Then I come here... and look- people DO STILL think outside of the box!
Ahhh..................what a relief.
I can't say that I've met a person like me. I know I haven't been forgotten. I show my friends where meaning exists. Which is why I have many friends that stand by me. Wandering the world.. trying to make sense of it all. It's weird how OUR understanding never ends. I've lived lifetimes already.. . and I'm only 20.
I have always been a hippie... a new generation kind... (I like to shower) .. ha. Kidding... but, I understand what you mean... hippie or indigo.. I think most of your generation COULD relate to an indigo lifestyle.. but, I don't think they would have all of the feelings that an indigo is 'cursed' with.
Lapis, your wisdom always enlightens me. -- - - thank you for the support... and ALWAYS needed guidance.
-until then.. I remain 'blue'-
:mrgreen:
---->madison
m_Adison
04-10-2006, 06:34 PM
I look at your chart....it is interesting, Empath. You are Scorpio rising Aquarius.. I am Aquarius rising Scorpio...
COOL.
haha.
:lol:
Empath
04-11-2006, 01:11 AM
m_Adison,
We are flip sides of a similar coin! :D
You do speak directly to the existential ennui I've written about. I well remember being 20 -- in fact 20 is clearer to me than 30 or 40 -- a feeling how I looked out to the world with eyes of age....
Being an old soul from another dimension/continuum/planet is not easy.
Like you, I had/have many friends who stood/stand by me, even if they don't really 'get' me. Remember, Friends are the family you choose.
You have a tremendous advantage in having a clue about what is going on, being able to articulate your feelings. There are others out there like yourself -- the right relationship will come when you are ready.
As a Scorpio/Aquarian, for me the most important question to ask about a lover is "Do you like him/her?" Friendship will be with you in times and places where lovers leave.
Just want to pass that along... I am grateful and fortunate that I figured out the importance of liking my mate before I got married.
I digress --
This thread reminds me of a cruise I took. There were those of us who could be found staring at the water. The water over the trenches in the Caribben is an incredible evanescent, dimesional blue. I spent most of the cruise staring at the blue, with those other 'blue' people. It's the one reason I want to cruise again -- this blue comes from depths of thousands of feet, and can only be seen at sea.
Now I know why I was transfixed by the blue -- it was more compelling than the drinks!
Lapis
04-12-2006, 10:55 PM
The Crystal/Octarine Shift:
The Child Disaster and the Adult Awakening: http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Indigo_Children/id/222769
There has been a lot of press lately about the sudden upsurge in profoundly autistic children- especially in California, but also in many other places. Some attribute this to the toxins in the water of California from the many fabrication plants in the Bay Area. Others say that when mildly autistic geeky sorts mate, their children are more likely to amplify their traits. Many programmers have Aspergers, a mild form of autism, which makes them excellent programmers, but also carries the risk of their offspring having full-blown autism. And others say the problem stems from the effects of some vaccines on children.
Another, less publicized source for the epidemic of autism is the unfortunate spiritual selection of babies as carriers of the Octarine (some call it Crystal) traits of information processing. The traits of the Octarine mind would challenge even the most well adjusted adult, but are proving to be potentially life destroying for newborns. Before I continue, let me go over some of these traits and sensitivities to refresh your understanding of the burden that one with the Octarine traits must carry. In the process of sharing these traits, I will add my own personal experiences as a newly transited Indigo-Octarine, so you can get an idea of why the Wise Ones have now shifted away from newborns as carriers of this trait
.......contd
The Child Disaster and the Adult Awakening: http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Indigo_Children/id/222769 (http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Indigo_Children/id/222769)
Ó 2002 by Sunfell
I discovered the term "Wanderer" before Indigo but to me, they're very similar and just indicate that your Home is in the stars......in higher dimensions than 3D.
After decades of conscious living and remembering that I was a Wanderer, I had an incredibly lucid and potent dream on April 5, 1995. I was 43 at that time. In this powerful dream message the only image before me was =
D
1
47
Along with this image was the emotional and intellectual message, and it went like this. D is the first letter in my first name PLUS is meant the death of D****** and that I would become "1" or One, and that this whole process would begin at age 47 for me.
IOW's I was going to be entering a death process and transmutating into more of a state of Unity or "1" beginning at age 47 (which was Dec. 23, 1998). At the time of this dream message I thought I understood what all this meant. WRONG! I only understood one or two of the surface layers of it, not how totally deep and devastating it actually was going to be! Ignorance IS bliss.
As usual long after I'd lived through these monster sized Initations and death processes, I began being led to different info that would help me understand what I'd barely survived. I learned that in 1998 our Sun and Earth entered the Photon Band of Light after 12,000 + years of being OUT of it. Then the day of Spring Equinox 2004 I was led to Sunfell's site and discovered the term "Indigos and Crystals or Octarines" as she calls them. There, finally, was what I felt was my personal answer as to the hell I'd gone through with my "D-1-47" experienced. I was called upon like so many other Indigos, to carry more. To shift from Blue to Crystal. And I'm still today dealing with living as a Crystal or Octarine. Its getting easier, finally.....
Another past life memory I've had for many years is of a Family member from Orion who came to earth in ancient Egypt with 2 other star beings. I've mentioned them before. What I left out was that this wonderful Orion being had milk-white skin with a pale blue cast underneath it. He literally was a pale blue under that milky-white smooth skin. His eyes and hair was the color of the darkest blue-black Sapphire. And where he came from or Home, was Lapis lazuli colored! :wink: There's that Blue again, which I've read is THE color of the Age of Aquarius. More stellar hints.
The images of Lord Krishna have always pulled deeply at me, not because of any religious reasons but because he's Blue! I remember seeing a picture of Krishna looking very blissed out or 'spiritually high' and he'd pulled open his chest to reveal his opened and functioning Heart Chakra. To me this is very "Indigo" and "Crystal" like symbology.
www.geocities.com/radhakutir/images/krishna1.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/radhakutir/images/krishna1.jpg)
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Lapis
04-15-2006, 12:22 AM
The Indigo to Crystal Transitional Crisis
by Celia Fenn: 1. The Indigo to Crystal Transitional Crisis. (http://www.starchild.co.za/crisis.html)
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I have been asked by Archangel Michael to write this article in order to help the many people who undergo the experience of a rapid shift into multi-dimensional awareness, or, the shift from the Indigo state to the Crystal state of consciousness.
There are people who make the transition in a relatively gentle way, but there are many who experience a crisis when this happens. These are usually the people who have chosen to open up to the higher dimensions. This choice is not made logically by the rational mind, but is rather a soul choice made in response to the available transitional energies of the Earth herself. So, sometimes a person is thrust into psychological, emotional and bodily changes for which they can find no logical explanation. This can cause a crisis. My experience has been that orthodox doctors and psychologists are of very little help as they have no idea of what the person is experiencing. When tests come back negative, the person is often considered to be hysterical or ungrounded or even schizophrenic.
This transition often happens to people who have been on spiritual paths and are better equipped to handle the shifts. But, my experience is also that Indigo Children, no matter what their state of spiritual awareness, are particularly vulnerable to the spontaneous experience of transiton or breakthough to the awareness of higher dimensions. I must also add that the use of any kinds of drugs, fairly common among Indigo adolescents, quite often precipitates this transitonal crisis before the person is really ready to deal with the effects.
.....contd @ the links provided
www.starchildascension.org/starchild/adult.html (http://www.starchildascension.org/starchild/adult.html)
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Maries
04-17-2006, 03:06 PM
Hi Glykeria,
I inquired about Indigos myself. Here's the thing---
When they talk about "cleared karma", I THINK they refer to someone who no longer needs to reincarnate. They are old souls who have resolved all their karmic issues. They return-- are reborn-- not for their betterment, but to help mankind. They CHOOSE to return.
Maries
CalicoDreams
04-17-2006, 03:57 PM
I used to think of myself as an Indigo child, but now that I think about it, I'm a Crystal child. My mom thinks so too.
I heard about lightworkers from my sister before, because she said she was one ... and I do see 11:11 quite often. I even live down the street from an office building that is numbered 1111. I also see number combinations like 2:22, 3:33, 4:44, 5:55 and 1:11.
Let's see... how am I a Crystal child?
Many of the Crystal Children have delayed speech patterns, and it's not uncommon for them to wait until they're 3 or 4 years old to begin speaking.
Crystal Children spontaneously hug and care for people in need.
Children often 'zone out' and ignore their surroundings and move into their own reality or playground of experience.
The first thing most people notice about Crystal Children is their eyes, large, penetrating, and wise beyond their years.
My special ed preschool teacher always called me an old soul =) of course, I was put in that class because my motor skills did not develop as they should have, because I was born with a heart defect and had to stay in the hospital for quite some time after birth.
But it says Crystal children are the young children... the ones 7 and older are the Indigo children, and I'm 15, so does that make me an Indigo? I'm confused about that...
sumska vila
04-21-2006, 01:03 PM
Hi everybody!
I was surffing on internet and caught this *lovelyspace*.
My story: I was triggered with NDE,clinical death in 1998.
In this *remebering*behind the death portal,i spoke with my higher self,and was told what I have to do on planet.
I am situated in higher dimensions in Orion constalation.
In 3D dimension i live and work in Croatia as Engineer but with this coming ascension I am changing my work.
I work with Pleiadans and 6 years old Crystal children.
After my clinical death,i have worked with collective consciousnes,
and sometimes I thought I couldn't have faced the energy,kundalini,thrugh my body.
There was a war in my country,and lot's of destructive forces needs to be healed.
It was horrible and very difficult.
Today, I am grounding 5D,merging with my Twin flame in androgynus relationship,which will be a new way of unions in Golden age.
I am holding the grounded 5D vibration field within my counsciousnes.
A have had a lot help from starchildascension group and Celia Fenn.
Be brave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lapis
04-22-2006, 01:53 AM
sumska vila,
So glad you found us here. What an amazing amount of energy work it sounds like you've had to do simply living where you do! Many of us across the planet have been doing this in different ways for different reasons. Thank you for doing all that you have for the rest of us in other parts of the world.
I too enjoy what Celia Fenn and Karen Bishop are helping us Lightworkers remember and understand better. We're lucky to have them.
I hope we'll see you more here too. :)
sumska vila
04-24-2006, 07:26 AM
Dear Lapis,
Your story is great,your lucid dreams and remembering past lifes.
Every journey through the veils of illusion is original and uniq for
every beautiful stellar being called human in 3D.
When I was passing the ascension proces from Indigo to Crystal,i met a beautiful 5 yeras old child.
She led me through ascension proces.
Today, we have a lot work to do,to help
other stellar beings to find their home.
Yesterday, while I was reading a book in my balkony,
I felt the breathing of Mother/Father Earth and her/his beautiful energy
that support our multidimensional reallity.
Gaia is stabilased in 5D matrix,and is much more easier
to live and ground our higher dimensions.
Earth is our collective chosen reallity,we have created it.
Earth is us.
In the last month I can see grouping of people with similar intentions and choosen reallity.
My lovely friend,works with me in the same firm,found out that she is Pleiadan stellar being. She dreamed her higher self a month ago,
and now she is gradually accepting her new reallity.
She has a beautiful gift of loving,open heart.
Pleiadans brought a gift of medicin on Earth.
I am so glad that Crystal and Indigo children are finally recognised!
www.multidimensions.com
AquariusMoon
08-23-2006, 02:15 PM
http://www.artakiane.com/
Check out this site of an Indigo child and enjoy :)
Click on "To View More Akiane Art Click Here" and read the poetry that goes with each painting.
OmG guys... it's too much to read.:eek:
Anyways, if i repeat something that somebody said already, then i'm sorry :o , it's about Quaoar ( lets see more of the astrologycal reasons ).
The responsable for the indigo and crystal childs its Quaoar planet because, it shows indicators of generation ( if conjunct with other slow planets, Pluto, Neptune, Uranus etc etc gives something more then just a normal generation )
Check this link http://www.karmastrology.com/qgen.shtml
Arian Maverick
08-29-2006, 01:43 AM
This subject has always been a bit uncomfortable for me, for although I am of the generation of Indigo Children, I do not consider myself to possess an indigo consciousness. There must be other groups of souls incarnating on the physical plane during any particular time as part of some divine cosmic plan, so why do we focus our attention on the indigo and crystal children only? Have the previous generations existed purely for the procreation of these children? It seems a bit unfair for anyone to be told they are less special or less important in fulfiling our planet's destiny...or perhaps I am simply experiencing sibling jealousy syndrome? :confused:
Arian Maverick
Consider also the fact that some real indigo's/crystal's are actualy hidding, saying that they aren't special and keeping themselfs humble are actualy the ones. ( isn't so easy to detect them for real :rolleyes: )
Arian Maverick
08-29-2006, 04:44 PM
Consider also the fact that some real indigo's/crystal's are actualy hidding, saying that they aren't special and keeping themselfs humble are actualy the ones. ( isn't so easy to detect them for real :rolleyes: )
Thanks for that, BorX...you put a smile on my face on this dreary, rainy day :)
Arian Maverick
AquariusMoon
08-30-2006, 08:17 PM
This is from Kite's original post:
Who Are The Indigo People?
...Indigos vary wildly in their presentation. In the adults, there are two categories- those who are conscious of being an Indigo and are coming into their Inner power, and those who are latent, and haven't quite made that inner connection with their gifts yet.
...there will be that certain ‘something’ about them- a presence or charisma that sets them off from everyone else. They may not be rich or formally college educated, but if they give you advice, or make a prediction or observation, they’ll be spot-on. There is a depth of wisdom and knowledge within them that eclipses many highly educated sorts. They can be quiet and unassuming, but the successfully integrated, balanced and self-actualized adult Indigo has an aura of an ancient warrior-sage about them, and even if they are very young, they will have wise old eyes that will see right into your soul...but they volunteered to return, with all those eons of wisdom and experience intact. This is an awesome responsibility, but the Indigo bears it with grace and humor.
The latent and not yet manifested older Indigos are often the result of harsh mistreatment or misunderstanding as children, or being told over and over by parents and authorities that their visions had no meaning, or their sensitivities were fake, or worse, they are insane.
This is from Kite's original post. There are lots of reasons why someone like this may not share their insights, but I think they are meant to share them since that's why they're here in the first place.
Thanks, Lapis, and everyone for sharing your divine insights.
AqMoon
Arian Maverick
08-31-2006, 12:56 AM
I never believed these words would issue from my mouth, yet I am now convinced I am an Indigo Child.
I have read through the article Kite provided at the beginning of this thread and nearly cried as the pieces came together--memories of my past interwoven with the present. I will attempt to present them here in a somewhat orderly fashion.
School, to most Indigos, is a necessary evil, something to be endured, and escaped from as soon as possible.
I wish technology were advanced enough for me to attach a file of my thoughts, feelings, impressions, and experiences regarding school; there is simply too much to say!
We did not get the ‘life script’ that everyone else seems to want to follow blindly, and often eschew the ‘American Dream’ of the house with the white picket fence, spouse, 2.5 kids, minivan/SUV and the rest of it.
Through searching the forums for the keywords Indigo Child, I found a thread containing the following post:
Does this mean that I may eventually find myself in the education field? My mom has always pressured me a bit to follow in her footsteps...go to college, get a teaching certificate, and get a nice job in a school system where there's great job security (tenure) and you get summers off. But I've always wanted to do something more...I just don't know what that is yet. Hopefully, things will be different by the time I have to worry about this, but I'm growing up fast.
Another one of the main characteristics of Indigos of all ages is an iconoclastic, sometimes cynical outlook on life. We’ve seen it, done it, show us something interesting and new. And we don’t mean cheap popular media entertainment, either. We have an inbuilt understanding that what is reported on the media and through official channels is what they want you to know and believe, not what is necessarily true. We are very aware that 90% of what is on the tube, radio, or paper is pure manufactured nonsense. We seek the other ten percent.
This quote immediately transported me back to a post I wrote late January in the The Metaphysical Corner (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=835&page=3):
I wish I could have some clarifying experience that would reveal my true purpose here...but I don't think I have any exceptional abilities at all. I'm only sixteen years old, but I feel like a cynical old man...so bitter, so tired. Is this some adverse reaction to the new energy? Maybe I'm some perverse Anti-Indigo child...
Female Indigos are often accused of thinking like guys, and vice versa for the men.
This theme made an appearance in a post I wrote today in the thread No Opposites (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2716):
I do not have much to add to my last post except to acknowledge that I am a rather self-assertive young lady--and I do not believe this is a contradiction. It is difficult embodying such strong, masculine energy in a female incarnation because, although society is much more accepting of career women, we are still expected to be polite and docile in our interactions with others...
Older Indigos may also have problems with deeply buried rage- a leftover from their sometimes traumatic childhood. Many of us were bully magnets, and bear deep scars from childhood bully encounters, slights, and exclusion by our ‘normal’ peers. This buried rage can surface in unexpected ways, triggered by unexpected events.
This quote eerily mirrors an experience I had today in band camp, in which I was confronted with my own vengence and rage towards those who have shunned me, insulted me, teased me, etc.
Arian Maverick
P.S. Does this message make sense to anyone besides myself? I am extremely confused in the wake of my personal discovery...
I never believed these words would issue from my mouth, yet I am now convinced I am an Indigo Child.
I told you... you are an indigo :p , but in masked words;).
P.S. Does this message make sense to anyone besides myself? I am extremely confused in the wake of my personal discovery...
When I made my own discovery of myself i was confused as well ( life is strange sometimes :rolleyes: ), but you will get used to it. Also those words are kinda ezoterical by meaning, not exoterical ( that common people would understand ), but we have intuition abilities and we understand. ( that's why we are astrologers ;), right? )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children check the characteristics ( they are really awesome explained ), I find myself too in those characteristics almost all of them :eek: .
Lapis
08-31-2006, 02:10 AM
On another forum here we were talking about "Blue Energy" and the different "Blue Lights" and such. I mentioned there about how this blue color (much like this forums colors) is representing many different things that the Age of Aquarius is manifesting now. Also the 5th dimension!
It's indicating a higher level of consciousness that humanity in general is learning about and integrating. The 3rd Eye or Brow Chakra is this same deep pure blue color and that level of consciousness is becoming more and more common in the younger people incarnating. There's a new (Blue) Root Race of slightly higher expanded consciousness souls incarnating now because, the older Blues ;) Indigos who've gone Crystal and/or the global Lightworkers who've gone through the first intense wave of the Ascension process already, have cleared enough lower energies and consciousness across the planet that these faster vibrating souls can safely and comfortably exist here finally. Plans within plans within plans......
I think that most everyone is going blue :rolleyes: and this has so much to do with the Aquarian Age energies here already.
Katles
08-31-2006, 01:54 PM
I read an article about Indigo adults and children in Spirit and Destiny magazine and the woman who was an astrologer has done loads of research on them. She found that almost always, Indigos have a least 5 or more planets in the fifth house.
I find that the charataristics that they mention apply to almost everyone.
2rainbows
09-04-2006, 12:14 AM
It is perfectly possible to be crystal earlier than the late 90s. and not all people from the 70s and 80s are indigo or any other 'color'. some autistic adults do not think there are more autistic children now than any other time, but i disagree with this. i think the 80s brought incredible change to the world; these changes have a tendency to appear to make life more challenging than any other time in history, but we will come to find out how imperative the 80s were toward the Divine plan.
2rainbows
Lapis
09-07-2006, 11:54 PM
This is for Arian Maverick and any other "Blue's/Indigos" who are currently being triggered in different ways. (Moments before this, I posted a response at the "Spiritual Realm" forum on freedomlover's thread about her "Lapis Dream". Recently there's been a lot of seemingly disconnected threads/discussions about blue lights, blue eneriges, Indigos, Lapis Lazuli, the Aquarian Age being electric blue in color and on and on. All of these topics are connected and basically talking about the same thing. Transformations of humanity and our planet and beyond.
Because we're not as yet all 5D telepathic.....we have to use words to communicate. And so we have terms like Indigo and Crystal and Ascension and Lightworkers etc. to indicate different groups of souls at different levels and phases within this planetary transitioning. Nothing special, just different groups going through different energy initations. (If you haven't experienced any of these things as yet, fear not, you will soon.......I promise.) It's just that finally now there's enough higher energies here that far more people are consciously aware that they ARE changing now.
For many people, myself included, we're having to relearn now how to be Goddess like. One of the ways that that is manifesting in us, our bodies and minds, is that we're having one hell of a time "thinking" in our old familiar linear ways! Goddess energies are all about being. When we're being it's really easy to receive information from all over the cosmos BUT.....it comes to you in a totally different way than what we're used to. It comes as a knowing from your Higher Self, not from our ego's or our rational and linear minds and intellects. No high drama......just calm Crystal Clear ;) knowing and deep heart connections and respect of all others.
Goddess energies/consciousness (aka 5D and above) are highly synchronistic which really means that we're functioning at levels above physicality and polarity. It means we're feeling the beginnings of what it actually feels like at the 5th dimension (5D)! :D Why? Because from 5D on up (we're back to those words again) everyone is conscious of being connected to everyone else. Not so down here in 3-D.
Now for those who identify with Indigo and Crystal, much of these changes that I'd just call "Ascension symptoms" or "the Ascension process" are really one and the same thing. Everyone has been/is/will continue to be going through this long process of transforming from one state into a higher state. And that means that we're transmuting our little ego selves into a state of being far, far, more connected to our Higher Selves and that means everything changes for the better!
When we're in our lower vibrating ego selves we are far more disconnected from everyone else. We're used to perceiving this physical reality in one certain way, mentally, emotionally, psychically, physically etc. But as we each get activated to move up another notch energetically, these old familiar ways of perceiving start changing suddenly. It feels like we're loosing our little minds and we are actually! We keep getting upgrades which are causing us to feel each other and be able to telepathically communicate nearly effortlessly. But this will only happen when enough people all reach the same energetic level (group) and each person is vibrating at the same exact higher energy state. You have to BE it first, then you'll discover that you are in the same place energetically.
So don't worry about how your mind and intellect is not working so great now because it's getting expanded and upgraded to something far superior. ;) And don't worry about how your emotions are all over the place now too because that's normal and will level out after a bit. And don't worry about how your physical body seems to be totally falling apart and changing in ways we'd never have dreamed of! That too is just another aspect of this process of Ascension or of transitioning from one state, dimension, or "color" like Indigo to Crystal and/or 5th dimensional.
unukalhai
09-09-2006, 08:34 PM
m_Adison,
This thread reminds me of a cruise I took. There were those of us who could be found staring at the water. The water over the trenches in the Caribben is an incredible evanescent, dimesional blue. I spent most of the cruise staring at the blue, with those other 'blue' people. It's the one reason I want to cruise again -- this blue comes from depths of thousands of feet, and can only be seen at sea.
Now I know why I was transfixed by the blue -- it was more compelling than the drinks!
Clear blue water is quite entrancing for us, isn't it? :D
No supprise, the Aquarian co-rulers Saturn (classic) and Uranus (modern) have blue outer rings:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060406_uranus_blue.html
Also, thanks everyone for the interesting links! I have heard the term before, yet did not understand the meanings behind it. I've long been aware of this group of people, good to put a word to it.
It would seem Indigo Children are those strongly sensitive to the Uranus/Neptune polarity.
It would also appear the traits outlined are very much me.
Have many of you Indigos note strong resonance with outer planet transits? Did the 1993 Uranus/Neptune triple-conjunction (@ 18-19 Capricorn) prove to provide a major shift in consciousness or life path? And for the older Indigos, did the 1979 Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/Pluto alignment (Sept 15, 18 degrees Virgo/Libra/Scorpio/Sagittarius) also provide a major shift?
For those interested, it's important to note the present Saturn/Neptune opposition, at its initial exactness, lined up with the 1979 outer planet configuration in perfection.
freedomlover
09-09-2006, 09:25 PM
Quote:
"The latent and not yet manifested older Indigos are often the result of harsh mistreatment or misunderstanding as children, or being told over and over by parents and authorities that their visions had no meaning, or their sensitivities were fake, or worse, they are insane."
This is me to a tee. I have all of the Indigo qualities of "bucking the system" and not agreeing with the status quo. However the vast majority of my psychic gifts are dormant, latent, whatever. All of the things in the quote happened to me as a child, and happened again as an adult, when I tried to access them. I feel this is a major reason for my feeling "split down the middle" of my mind. I live with such turmoil and confusion in my mind. I really feel that it traces back to the words and treatment of others. I have felt insane much of the past several years, and the more I tried to follow my intuition and dreams, the worse it got.
pisceskitty
09-15-2006, 02:26 PM
I used to think of myself as an Indigo child, but now that I think about it, I'm a Crystal child. My mom thinks so too.
I heard about lightworkers from my sister before, because she said she was one ... and I do see 11:11 quite often. I even live down the street from an office building that is numbered 1111. I also see number combinations like 2:22, 3:33, 4:44, 5:55 and 1:11.
Let's see... how am I a Crystal child?
Many of the Crystal Children have delayed speech patterns, and it's not uncommon for them to wait until they're 3 or 4 years old to begin speaking.
Crystal Children spontaneously hug and care for people in need.
Children often 'zone out' and ignore their surroundings and move into their own reality or playground of experience.
The first thing most people notice about Crystal Children is their eyes, large, penetrating, and wise beyond their years.
My special ed preschool teacher always called me an old soul =) of course, I was put in that class because my motor skills did not develop as they should have, because I was born with a heart defect and had to stay in the hospital for quite some time after birth.
But it says Crystal children are the young children... the ones 7 and older are the Indigo children, and I'm 15, so does that make me an Indigo? I'm confused about that...
:eek: God this is amazing! i believe my son is one. He didn't speak as a small child[he's 8 now] he was[and still is] such a loving affectionate child! he also has a love of nature. When he was 2 yrs old..and i'm not making this up. I was sitting in the back yard, and i was feeling really down, tired even. he picked a dandelion and handed it to me, then placed his little hand on my forehead. It was like he was trying to calm me, heal me even. It was so cute, because he was sucking his thumb at the same time!
We had taken him to specialists', because he just wouldn't speak.They gave him MRI's the works. Then they said when he was about 3, that he had something called Soto's syndrome. They ruled that out. He doesn't have the facial charcteristics for that. Then they claimed he was Autistic. Then they ruled that out. Finally my astrologer[Shelley Ackerman] did his chart. She said he doesn't have any of those things.
My child is just so giving, and loving. He has the ability to tap into what people are feeling.He reminds ne alot of myself, when I was a little girl. This thread is really inspiring, and amazing!
business voodoo
12-15-2006, 01:37 AM
hi everyone ...
i'm just stepping into this discussion having studied the subject of indigo/crystal children since having my daughter nearly 7 years ago ... and what i think is that just as we are transiting from pisces to aquarius, we are also transiting from "homo sapien" to "homo sapien sapien" and i would refer anyone who is not familiar with this scientific transition to duane elgin and his book "awakening earth" ...
the transition from "homo sapien" man who knows, to "homo sapien sapie" or man who knows he knows is quite dramatic as it is a transition of spiritual and intellectual evolution as well as physical evolution. there was a bit of discussion on the ADD and autism earlier on this discussion of ndigo children (and boy do i hate labels ... just a new way to create classifications and discrimination ... but that perhaps is a whole new topic!), and that is a part of the transition in our physical/emotional/mental/spiritual bodies in this day and time.
'survival of the fittest' is still the law at work ... many of the children who now have autism, especially in california, could have totally avoided it if their parents had the information they needed on their children's evolutionary stage. the overdose of mercury shortcircuiting their energy systems causing autism can often be reversed with proper energy work, but time is always of the essence. diets and environments that can help the evolutionary process with teh children are imperative ... whether you want to call yourself or your child indigo or crystal, etc., is just fine ... it can help you identify particularities of your genetic or evolutionary path.
especially as over the past 100 years is when the homo sapien sapien evolution truly begun to happen in larger numbers, we are seeing the shift in energies reflected inthings like the second saturn returns, the uranus opposition and how much greater these energy 'spikes' in life can help breathe new life in our evolutionary processes.
anyway ... i just think that this is quite a dynamic and miraculous time we are all living in, its exciting that there's a dialogue like this on the internet! thank you.
libra-gemini
02-16-2008, 12:58 AM
i havent heard of crystal children at all but i ahve heard of indigo children apparaently they ahve a very hard childhood and they struggle in shcool because of the fixed ways of schools teaching, but they are highy intelligant and very creative.
Asher
03-24-2009, 09:57 PM
The notions of the books printed on Crystal Children seem to exclude the older ones. The ideas that these children have only emerged since the 1990's is absolutely false. I am 32 and I am a Crystal Child, yet according to this book, I would be excluded. But in truth, this was not spoken about when I was a child all the way until I was 25. So, in fact, it was just kept to mentions of being a "special child". I was born with autism and also very psychically sensitive.
Arian Maverick
03-24-2009, 11:07 PM
i'm just stepping into this discussion having studied the subject of indigo/crystal children since having my daughter nearly 7 years ago ... and what i think is that just as we are transiting from pisces to aquarius, we are also transiting from "homo sapien" to "homo sapien sapien" and i would refer anyone who is not familiar with this scientific transition to duane elgin and his book "awakening earth" ...
the transition from "homo sapien" man who knows, to "homo sapien sapie" or man who knows he knows is quite dramatic as it is a transition of spiritual and intellectual evolution as well as physical evolution.
I might be wrong in this regard, but I thought that all human beings alive on this planet were Homo sapiens sapiens--i.e., the sapiens variety of the species Homo sapiens. This anthropology website (http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.htm ) appears to back up my claim.
I do not question that our species is evolving; I just thought that Homo sapiens sapiens began to appear 200,000 years ago.
Is there a different scientific name?
there was a bit of discussion on the ADD and autism earlier on this discussion of ndigo children (and boy do i hate labels ... just a new way to create classifications and discrimination ... but that perhaps is a whole new topic!), and that is a part of the transition in our physical/emotional/mental/spiritual bodies in this day and time.
I agree, but currently, this classification is the only way for these children to get much-needed services.
'survival of the fittest' is still the law at work ... many of the children who now have autism, especially in california, could have totally avoided it if their parents had the information they needed on their children's evolutionary stage. the overdose of mercury shortcircuiting their energy systems causing autism can often be reversed with proper energy work, but time is always of the essence. diets and environments that can help the evolutionary process with teh children are imperative ... whether you want to call yourself or your child indigo or crystal, etc., is just fine ... it can help you identify particularities of your genetic or evolutionary path.
I am not sure what you are trying to imply, but upon first reading, it appears that you are blaming parents for "causing" their children's autism, or at the least, for exposing them to influences that trigger certain responses. I do not believe you intended to imply that parents would knowingly cause their children harm, but it sounds like you view many of these parents as uninformed, even ignorant, of autism statistics and the risks associated with certain vaccinations.
Have you considered the possibility that parents are at least partially aware of the risks, but they cannot exempt their children from receiving these vaccinations? Or they can, but this would require that they do not enroll their children in public education?
I agree that vaccinations can be harmful in large doses, especially if they contain certain ingredients. I do not believe that children should continue to receive the number of vaccinations that they do today, in addition to new ones that appear on the market each year. Yet I believe you need to target the institutions--not the parents.
The notions of the books printed on Crystal Children seem to exclude the older ones. The ideas that these children have only emerged since the 1990's is absolutely false. I am 32 and I am a Crystal Child, yet according to this book, I would be excluded. But in truth, this was not spoken about when I was a child all the way until I was 25. So, in fact, it was just kept to mentions of being a "special child". I was born with autism and also very psychically sensitive.
During large transformational periods, "scouts" are always sent out in advance to
clear/transmute the energy, thus allowing larger groups of higher-vibrating beings to incarnate. I believe it's highly possible that you are one of these scouts. ;)
Arian Maverick
Arthur
04-19-2009, 06:57 PM
Quote:
The notions of the books printed on Crystal Children seem to exclude the older ones. The ideas that these children have only emerged since the 1990's is absolutely false. I am 32 and I am a Crystal Child, yet according to this book, I would be excluded. But in truth, this was not spoken about when I was a child all the way until I was 25. So, in fact, it was just kept to mentions of being a "special child". I was born with autism and also very psychically sensitive.
The 1990s may be the years where there were more crystal child, may be why people have said they are born since 1990.
Modcleopatra
12-12-2009, 06:25 PM
A few things...
I have been told I am an "indigo child." My color-ology indicates that this MIGHT be true, but I often find it all VERY frustrating. This is because: a) I feel like because of my "maturity," I often become a target for high-falutin self-aggrandizing concepts of spirituality which serve to explain my maturity rather than simply honor my unique spiritual path; b) I feel like I am tool of a great social movement that represents a vision, rather than a reality, and more importantly my reality; c) if I don't subscribe to EITHER the medicalization of my attributes and declare and accept myself as having say, ADD, or the spiritualization of my attributes and declare and accept myself as an agent of mass spiritual evolution and therefore special, where do I belong as this unique individual; d) my being is a treated in general terms no matter the classification of medical or spiritual, and I become a justification for a whole slew of poor social theorizing and examination, I am simply a mirror for the world to gaze into. Whether I am an "indigo" or I have "ADD," I am ultimately ONLY the source which created those two concepts, or more specifically, I represent in my classification, the POWER of that source to shape reality. What am I actually?
I will admit I have read things on indigo children and felt an eerie connection. But I also have Pluto at the highest point in my chart so I feel a connection to a lot of difficult change-related things.
I want to also mention that while mercury is most certainly NOT good for the body... no studies indicate that vaccines cause autism. If mercury was responsible, the mercury fumes released during the now-old mercury filling placements during dental work, we would see a lot more adolescent and adult-onset autism.
Mod!
akasha
11-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Consider also the fact that some real indigo's/crystal's are actualy hidding, saying that they aren't special and keeping themselfs humble are actualy the ones. ( isn't so easy to detect them for real :rolleyes: )
Thank you for that!
I have always felt different, but don't want anyone to think I'm nuts.
As a child I kept to myself, soaked up every bit of "new info" while listening, and preferring the company of adult. as an adult, I am very selective what I talk about to who, unless they ask me first :happy:
akasha
11-09-2011, 04:58 PM
Wow! all me...
thanks Adrian!
I never believed these words would issue from my mouth, yet I am now convinced I am an Indigo Child.
I have read through the article Kite provided at the beginning of this thread and nearly cried as the pieces came together--memories of my past interwoven with the present. I will attempt to present them here in a somewhat orderly fashion.
I wish technology were advanced enough for me to attach a file of my thoughts, feelings, impressions, and experiences regarding school; there is simply too much to say!
Through searching the forums for the keywords Indigo Child, I found a thread containing the following post:
Does this mean that I may eventually find myself in the education field? My mom has always pressured me a bit to follow in her footsteps...go to college, get a teaching certificate, and get a nice job in a school system where there's great job security (tenure) and you get summers off. But I've always wanted to do something more...I just don't know what that is yet. Hopefully, things will be different by the time I have to worry about this, but I'm growing up fast.
This quote immediately transported me back to a post I wrote late January in the The Metaphysical Corner (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=835&page=3):
I wish I could have some clarifying experience that would reveal my true purpose here...but I don't think I have any exceptional abilities at all. I'm only sixteen years old, but I feel like a cynical old man...so bitter, so tired. Is this some adverse reaction to the new energy? Maybe I'm some perverse Anti-Indigo child...
This theme made an appearance in a post I wrote today in the thread No Opposites (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2716):
I do not have much to add to my last post except to acknowledge that I am a rather self-assertive young lady--and I do not believe this is a contradiction. It is difficult embodying such strong, masculine energy in a female incarnation because, although society is much more accepting of career women, we are still expected to be polite and docile in our interactions with others...
This quote eerily mirrors an experience I had today in band camp, in which I was confronted with my own vengence and rage towards those who have shunned me, insulted me, teased me, etc.
Arian Maverick
P.S. Does this message make sense to anyone besides myself? I am extremely confused in the wake of my personal discovery...
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