Am I pregnant as of today?

[newbie]

I was trying to get an answer to the question "Am I pregnant as of today?" I will be testing next week to confirm the same, but am curious already.

Ok....I took a shot at it myself....and am a little excited.

Ascendant Scorpio - fruitful sign.
Aries in 5th house - yet again, positive indication.
1st ruler Mars in 10th house, again positive!

Looks like I am pregnant, right?

[Ebenia]

5th house is in Pisces, not in Aries. 6th house is in Aries.

I am not so into horary, so that I would know for sure, but Scorpio does not always mean giving birth. Scorpio is also about defeat, death, transformation and so on. But yes, in this case it could definately mean the delivery - or then just (when representing you) that you look this thing as very Scorpio like, obsessively maybe.

But maybe someone else could say a few more words, I do not want to say anymore, cause I don't have enough information about horary to be making big analytics about this.

Good luck to you!

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Ascendant is in a prolific Sign, but the planet Mars is naturally barren and so is the Sign it occupies. Fifth house in Pisces is also very prolific, but Jupiter in Capricorn is not and its retrograde. Luna is in Aquarius (who is also a prolific Sign) and Luna is separating an Opposition from Venus (your partner) who is also in a barren Sign. After this Luna is Void.

I'm voting no.

[newbie]

Hmm...that was very insightful.
But what if the charts have a mix of both fertile and non-fertile signs?
What does that indicate?

[smilingsteph]

Okay being rather new to horary and also having a nitpicking quality, I dont like how you phrased your question....It has two meanings....
Do you mean are you pregnant now?
Or are you asking did you get pregnant today?
the question comes across as:
I had sex today, am I now pregnant?
Did I get pregnant today?

So the question in horary is very important....if the question is not asked in the appropriate verbage then you will get a chart that is also not appropriate...
Plus, if you did have sex today then ask a question to see if you are pregnant, it takes 6-8 days for the fertilized egg to travel down the fallopian tube and implant into the uterus (which is when one could say) I am pregnant....
Implantation is that of pregnancy...so the answer then would be no....

The chart will always have a mix of both fertile and non-fertile signs, it contains all 12 of the zodiac...some are fertile and some are not....
It depends on the planet more so than the house, you have fifth house pisces- but to look at where the ruler is- which is jupiter in capricorn which is not fertile, so the end of that is jupiter in a non-fertile sign....

[tikana]

all you need here is
mars trine jupiter
that is all ! looks like yes
you are pregnant

[LionKing]

Hmm sort of a newbie myself but.... the 5th house is the call. Now T did say Mars trine Jupiter but that is 10th and 3rd house, not the 5th house. And yes... Jupiter is retrograde... not good. My vote... I'm sorry... no.
V/r LionKing

[tikana]

ohh LionKing

you do not need to have anything in 5th to verify if the person is pregnant or not

there is a bigger concern regarding this pregnancy

moon will oppose venus .. venus rules the querent's 12th house
That worries me

Frawley on things coming to fruition or not

1. must have an aspect - got it
2 reception - will to act
3 dignity - power to act

Mars is accidental dignity + aspect
Mars applies to Jupiter with mutual application
good enough for me to get a yes

T

[fensi88]

To me it seams "no", because if you are pregnant that must be "written" in the chart by separate aspect between your ruler and 5 house ruler. Neighter Moon nor Ma had separate aspect with Ju rx, so the answer is "no".

[DiDi]

hi newbie
good luck in your ttc by the way..;)

asc ruler mars and 5th house ruler jupiter have to aspect.. yes you got this
asc sco is fertile and pisces is to. only im not sure that virgo and cap is.
THe only question i would raise here is.. where these plannets mars and jupiter are falling.. to me its a no..

BUT

yoUR Question was.. am i pregnant as of today?
you cant be, it takes at least 5 days to be impregnanted by egg attaching to lining of the uterous.
I think its how you asked the question which is the problem.

as the 5th ruler jupiter is in the 3rd house of communication and your asc ruler being in the 10th showing the optimism..
you very well could be ... heres hopeing..
wait a few days ask in a different way and see what happens.. let us know/
pregnancy has been a hard horay to answer here.

[smilingsteph]

Okay being rather new to horary and also having a nitpicking quality, I dont like how you phrased your question....It has two meanings....
Do you mean are you pregnant now?
Or are you asking did you get pregnant today?
the question comes across as:
I had sex today, am I now pregnant?
Did I get pregnant today?

So the question in horary is very important....if the question is not asked in the appropriate verbage then you will get a chart that is also not appropriate...
Plus, if you did have sex today then ask a question to see if you are pregnant, it takes 6-8 days for the fertilized egg to travel down the fallopian tube and implant into the uterus (which is when one could say) I am pregnant....
Implantation is that of pregnancy...so the answer then would be no....

The chart will always have a mix of both fertile and non-fertile signs, it contains all 12 of the zodiac...some are fertile and some are not....
It depends on the planet more so than the house, you have fifth house pisces- but to look at where the ruler is- which is jupiter in capricorn which is not fertile, so the end of that is jupiter in a non-fertile sign....

Hello does anyone read my posts,
Didi, I totally agree with you....

Not to mention I was going through other horary questions similar to yours and members have said no, and the poster was pregnant, then we say yes and they are indeed not pregnant. If you go through these situations, the questions were not asked in an appropriate manner...which can mess with the entire chart....one thought for sure she was pregnant, no test to standby her thought and it threw the horary team off, she was never pregnant to begin with; then you have one asking if she was pregnant and already knew the answer....
So these things can be detrimental to the outcome of the question,
Did you fully understand the question?

[tikana]

Not quite

MUTUAL APPLICATION: An applying aspect in which the two planets are moving toward one another because one is advancing and the other is retrograde. A potent force in bringing matters to perfection. Often brings a fast, unexpected result. *Anthony Louis*

there you have it.. RETRO does not always mean bad!

[DiDi]

smilingsteph.. I cant talk for others but i read your posts.

tikana.. glad to hear retro is not allways bad, i diddnt think it was allways bad especially how can jupiter be bad its a neutral plannet isnt it.?
okay so as long as there is a recepting asc to 5th ruler there is no need for the 5th to be in either asc or 7th or 11th like lilly says.
there are a lot of workings of horay some do not say the same thing, who do we follow?

[tikana]

Didi

Jupiter rules children according to Lilly volume 2 house 5 issues

T

[wintersprite1]

Looking at this chart from a strict yes or no answer, I am going to have to agree with Tik. Querent = Mars, Quested (5th house ruler) = Jupiter rx

Mars next aspect is trine to Jupiter, with the rx hasting the process. The Moon is conjunct the IC, home of new beginnings.

TK

[Neptune Rising]

I'd agree with 'yes', actually yes in 6 days probably when Mars trines Jupiter.

Mars trines Jupiter, no interference, mutual reception. Interesting mixture of water and earth elements - fertility. Moon's next aspect is conjunction to Part of Fortune - good luck.

Good luck!:)
NR

[newbie]

All,

I apologize for the confusion my question has caused.
And yes, I do know that implantation takes a week or more. When I asked this question, I was 9 days past ovulation, enough time for implantation to have occurred( ofcourse I do know that sometimes it takes longer than that).
And hence the question, "Am I pregnant as of today?" meaning, is there any chance that I would have conceived as of Saturday July 20, 2008.
And the reason I asked this question is that since day 5 after ovulation, I've been feeling a little different. And hence the question on Day 9. Ofcourse, now I feel perfectly normal, which is a little disappointing.

I will get to know myself in a few days from now.
Tomorrow is my b'day and I'm hoping that God blesses me with the best gift of my life this time.

[Summery Joy]

I agree with fensi, but even when you consider the trine between Mars and Jupiter as a baby that is yet to come, Mercury is prohibiting that trine by almost perfecting an opposition to the latter. Looks like a no. I'm intersted in the outcome though. Let us know and good luck. Don't get bummed out if it does turn out to be a no. Keep tryin' till you get that baby!

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Yes Tik, there is a Trine, but look from what Signs the Trine is coming from. They're both barren.

[newbie]

Yeah.....but if the answers are in response to the question "Am I pregnant as of today?", it is quite possible that I'm not at this instant, but I could still be this cycle? I mean, implantation may not have occurred, but it is still possible that it happens later right?
Just hopeful! :confused:

smilingsteph:

You said you didnt like the way the question was asked. Like I already explained in my previous post, it's already 10 days since ovulation and that's why this question. Basically my question was do you think implantation has already happened and that I've conceived this cycle. I started analysing using "skyscript" website, but I've learnt so much thanks to all of you!


Kaiousei no Senshi :
1st ruler(Mars) in 10th house: Per skyscript, this is also an indication of pregnancy. So, how do you say that 1st house ruler is barren and is placed in a barren sign and hence does not indicate pregnancy? So if Mars would have been placed in 10th house but which is fertile instead of barren, would it have helped?
Your last post seems to answer it all. yes, there is a trine, but the signs of the trine are barren. Hmm....interesting.....guess will have to wait and see.....another 4-5 days and mother Nature will come to my aid and lemme know....But from the very bottom of my heart am still hoping that this is it.....been a really long wait!

Neptune Rising:

You said "actually yes in 6 days probably when Mars trines Jupiter". How did you calculate those 6 days?




Oh....and I have one more question....if Jupiter being in retrograde means action of Jupiter is reversed, am not gonna stand a chance until Sept 8th, 2008...right...as Jupiter is going to stay in retrograde until then!

[DiDi]

tikana.. im not sure why you posted this...

"Jupiter rules children according to Lilly volume 2 house 5 issues"

I know jupiter rules children and its a 5th house issue in this case. so are you saying as long as its done this, there is no need from a 5th house ruler in the asc or 7th or 11th?
I think thats what your saying!

newby,, that makes sense now about your question, I find it hard at times to, that we know what we are asking and how it came acrosee but you have to put it into one sentance..
I think your chances are pretty good, from all that i know anyway as long as the asc and 5th ruler meet thats positive. the barren signs are a debate and it depends when it gets used, like mine i put up in here a few days ago, fertile plannets but barren rulers aliitle like yours only yours actually aspects one another mine didint.
oh im excited for you cant wait to find out... good luck newby xxx

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

1st ruler(Mars) in 10th house: Per skyscript, this is also an indication of pregnancy. So, how do you say that 1st house ruler is barren and is placed in a barren sign and hence does not indicate pregnancy? So if Mars would have been placed in 10th house but which is fertile instead of barren, would it have helped?

Yes, it is an indication of pregnancy, but there are still several more factors that must be considered, and they aren't all so good. Mars is naturally barren due to his excessive heat, Virgo is barren as maids do not bear children. Had there been many more significators in prolific Signs, it would have drastically changed the chart answer around.


Your last post seems to answer it all. yes, there is a trine, but the signs of the trine are barren. Hmm....interesting.....guess will have to wait and see.....another 4-5 days and mother Nature will come to my aid and lemme know....But from the very bottom of my heart am still hoping that this is it.....been a really long wait!

Yes, the Trine can definately help out the situation, but the fact still remains that the Trine is coming from Signs that are barren (Virgo and Capricorn), and the reception between those planets involved is troublesome to say the least. Jupiter is in the exaltation of Mars, but Mars is in the detriment of Jupiter. Sounds scary to me.

the barren signs are a debate and it depends when it gets used,

Debate how?

[DiDi]

Kaiousei no Senshi.. oh not official debates from say lilly and the likes, sorry thats me being not clear again, just in here in the horay posts some people ignore them some dont, there was a pregnancy here people thought was a no, turned out to be a yes and she had barren signs. thats what i meant
if you have a miniut to spare perhaps you could look at mine please..
headed a scare byt now i want it.
Id like to understand the horay that was cast there. but of course i shouldnt and dont expect it, just that it has similarty to dowith barren signs

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Sure, I've got time, I'll gladly take a look at it if you want. Can you post a link to it, please? :)

[Neptune Rising]

You said "actually yes in 6 days probably when Mars trines Jupiter". How did you calculate those 6 days?

Hi :) You see the 6 degrees it takes for Mars to reach Jupiter by trine... that is 6 units of time - it could be 6 hours, 6 days, 6 weeks, or 6 months, that is one of the harder things to calculate. Eg if the planets are in angular houses they are said to travel fast, so the unit of time used would be hours, rather than weeks/days. The timing of days was a guess.

NR

[newbie]

Thanks all for your answers.

I will keep you posted on whatever is the outcome.

Meanwhile, I was reading an article on one of the websites:

If a Woman aske, whether she may conceive?
Many times a Woman married, having been long without Children, may inquire, whether she is like to Conceive, yea or no? In this Question you are to consider:
If the Lord of the Ascendant be in the 7th, or the Lord of the 5th in the 1st, or the Lord of the 1st in the 5th, or if the Lord of the 5th be in the 7th, or the Lord of the 7th in the 5th, or the Moon with him, or good Planets in the Ascendant, or with the Lord of the 5th, or in any of the Angles; she may then conceive:
But if none of these testimonies concurre, and you find barren Signes and ill Planets to be in the former places, she neither is at present conceived, or will thereafter conceive.
If good and bad Planets be mixed together, she may perhaps conceive or have Children, but they will not live: If Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces be in the Ascendant or 5th, she may have Children; but if Leo or Virgo be there, she neither is at present, or hardly after will be with Child. When women have been long without Children, and propound such a Question, see if their Nativity did not originally deny Children.

What do the Lord of the houses mean? Are they the same as the house rulers? For eg., First house sign ruler is Aries and planetary ruler is Mars.

One more question, can I ask another horary question related to pregnancy and expect to get a precise answer? For eg., instead of asking the question, "Am I pregnant as of today", if I would have asked the question, "Will I conceive this cycle?", could I have expected a clear answer? I did ask myself this question today and drew up a chart and am trying to interpret it myself, but would need some guidance. For that, I would like to know what precisely does "Lord of the House" mean?

Thanks in advance.

[DiDi]

thankyou Kaiousei no Senshi
its the 5th post down in the horay medical section from this one
i dont know how to post links,, ican if someone tells me how to do this please




newby.. yes lord means rulers like you said, here is some more info for you.

Pregnancy is shown by some kind of promising aspect (conjunction, sextile, trine or square) between the asc-ruler or Moon with the 5th house ruler. (Be careful, however, if the 5th-ruler is applying to, or is in aspect with, an unfortunate or detrimented planet as this will suggest difficulties and problems.) If there is no application look for some kind of translation, collection or antiscion relationship by or from the principal significators, which may show delayed success. The latter is a promising sign, but is not as good as a direct application between the main significators. Other positive indications are:

o Fruitful signs upon the ascendant or 5th cusp (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces).
o 5th-ruler or Moon in 1st house.
o 1st-ruler or Moon in 5th house.
o 1st-ruler in 1st, 5th, 10th or 11th house, if it aspects well-placed benefics and Jupiter is strong in the chart.
o The above, but with 1st-ruler in 4th or 7th house, suggesting that pregnancy will occur but will be delayed.
o Benefic planets in the 1st house, or angular, or in a promising aspect with 1st-ruler (look for Jupiter, Venus or Sun well placed, dignified and direct, and preferably in a sextile or trine with a principal significator).
o Jupiter in the ascendant or free from affliction in a strong house (providing it is not in a barren sign - see below).
o The asc in a fixed sign with a fortune placed in the first house or the 5th-ruler strong in the asc or MC.
o Venus in the 5th, free from affliction.
o Lord of the hour angular, in reception with the ruler of his angle; or in the 5th or 11th house in reception with the respective rulers.
o 1st-ruler, 5th-ruler or Moon in aspect with, and in reception with, an essentially dignified planet in an angle (Lilly warns that in these judgements accidental dignity gives hopes, but no real assurance).
o Asc-ruler in good aspect to ascendant or Moon in a good house and in a favourable aspect to a beneficial planet in an angle.
o Moon in good aspect to 5th cusp or having essential dignity there.

Lilly also mentions another method of judging pregnancy using the planet from which the Moon last separated and that to which it next applies: if the Moon's last planet rules the 5th sign from the position of the Moon's next planet, and there is an application or aspect between the two, the pregnancy will be successful. If this is the case but there is no aspect, yet the planet to which the Moon applies is angular, the pregnancy will be successful. He also notes that if the dispositor of the main significator is well placed and strong it increases the arguments for success.
from skyscript.

[newbie]

Thanks Didi. I'll give it a shot myself and then post it for confirmation.

Btw, what does the "Lord of the Ascendant" mean?

[DiDi]

so lord of ascendant= ruler of ascendant... mars in your case

[smilingsteph]

Look,
Either way, yes or no
I am hoping that this is a blessing and is a yes for you....it seems you want a child so badly, and I hope you get that little gift from heaven, if not now maybe sooner than later...
Yes,
Sperm live in the vagina for up to five days, eww...sorry seems wierd to have someones DNA hangning out in the vagina for that long....If you really hated the guy, imagine, oh man (sorry to gross you all out, medical talk I love it)
so the sperm, then you have ovulation, so this all can take several days to implant....
Once implantation happens sometimes there can be some spotting, anything of that sort newbie?
Well from the day of implantation it can take two-three more weeks to find out using the standard pee on the stick test...to pick up the HCG hormone...
However a female can feel the body changing even before the hormone is detectable on a stick...

so if the answer is no, you did not reach implantation from the day you asked the question you still could after that day.....
Seeing that women get pregnant on their periods, your ovulation may not be at the time you think it occured, however I think that women do know their bodies....but playing devils advocate....man I love doing that!

[newbie]

Didi,

Thanks for the clarification. will get back to you as soon as I'm done trying to interpret my chart.

Smilingsteph,
Thanks for the update. yes, am pretty desperate now to have that little one. It's been really long since we've been trying.
And like I said, days 5-9 after ovulation, I felt different. Now, I feel perfectly normal...nothing weird.....which to a normal person should be good, but for me, nah! Like you very correctly pointed out, they say a woman can feel if implantation has happened or if she's conceived because her body starts recognizing the changes even before the pee stick shouts "you are pregnant". I dont feel anything! And so disappointed.

Oh...can u answer one more question?

"If Jupiter being in retrograde means action of Jupiter is reversed, am not gonna stand a chance until Sept 8th, 2008...right...as Jupiter is going to stay in retrograde until then!"

[tikana]

okay

I had to load this chart in SF and look at the outline i have written down

lets look at radicality first

Moon rules the house
asce triplicity is Venus
chart is not quite radical
but okay let's move on

Moon traditional ruler of pregnancy
jupiter is the child itself
Fertlization is 8th house

Mars rules you - barren separating from saturn

Moon is void!

Jupiter is retro capricorn - the only dignity is by term but at the same time fall

there is translation of light mars/merc/jupiter
with TOL you must have some kind of reception to 3rd planet .. and we have exalt

if you are not pregnant, blame it on moon void

Tik

[Neptune Rising]

Does the aspect to the North Node discount the voidness of the Moon Tik? I am puzzled by the Mercury opposition, as Sorehearted pointed out. Mercury is in Jupiter exhaltation sign.

Newbie, whether it is in this cycle or a future one, have faith that this will happen for you, believe it to be actually true :) Give the idea of conceiving and having a baby your energy, and put your faith in that idea :)

NR

[tikana]

Does the aspect to the North Node discount the voidness of the Moon Tik? I am puzzled by the Mercury opposition, as Sorehearted pointed out. Mercury is in Jupiter exhaltation sign.

Newbie, whether it is in this cycle or a future one, have faith that this will happen for you, believe it to be actually true :) Give the idea of conceiving and having a baby your energy, and put your faith in that idea :)

NR

NR

only to a planet ...

Merc sextiled to Mars
then Merc is opposing to Jupiter

it is translation of light.

Tik

[Neptune Rising]

only to a planet ...

Merc sextiled to Mars
then Merc is opposing to Jupiter

it is translation of light.

wow that was quick! thanks Tik.

NR

[tikana]

uh huh
i am drawing that is why i am online

Cheers
Tik

[DiDi]

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10614

[newbie]

Here's an update.

I'm NOT PREGNANT. I'm on Day 3 of my next cycle today (Jul 26).

I've been reading a lot on this horary stuff.
Ascendant planet ruler Mars trine 5th house ruler Jupiter.
4th house governs end of matter.
Since this is a "baby" concern, starting from 5th house, we arrive at 8th house.
Now looking at the aspects between 8th house ruler Mercury and Jupiter, we have an opposition. Is that why it didnt happen?

Also, I was using the same chart to determine the time factor as to when conception could happen.

"The amount of time involved can be found by counting the number of degrees between Significators for an aspect to be exact."

6 degrees for Mars to reach Jupiter by trine.

Significator is Mars placed in Virgo which is a Mutable Earth sign.
Also Mars is in an angular house.
If the Signifcator is in a mutable sign and angular house, time is in weeks.
So can I safely assume that conception is gonna happen in 6 wks?

[fensi88]

To me it seams "no", because if you are pregnant that must be "written" in the chart by separate aspect between your ruler and 5 house ruler. Neighter Moon nor Ma had separate aspect with Ju rx, so the answer is "no".


The most important thing in horary is how you phrase your question. You did not ask "when will I conceive?", you ask "Am I pregnat as of today". So, in my opinion, you can not use same chart to get answer on this last question.

[tikana]

Goca

careful with this ...

there is an aspect

and it is upcoming

it could be that she will get pregnant

let's wait before we jump the guns on this ! Ja?


Tik

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Since this is a "baby" concern, starting from 5th house, we arrive at 8th house.
Now looking at the aspects between 8th house ruler Mercury and Jupiter, we have an opposition. Is that why it didnt happen?

When it's saying the Fourth house is the end of the matter it means the chart's Fourth house. Not the turned Fourth house from any other house, the IC and Fourth house cusp itself.

However, I do find this an absolutely stunning piece of observation from a beginner such as yourself. The Eighth house is associated with grief and loss, and it's no surprise that the Lord of the Eighth house opposes the ruler of the Fifth house. Sounds like no pregnancy to me.

[DiDi]

newbie... whats your partners moon sign?

[newbie]

Fensi88:

Ok.....I get it. I assumed that in any chart, no matter what the question is about, if and when it will happen, will actually be indicated in the chart. That was my interpretation.

Tikana:

Nothing to do with horary, what does "Goca" mean? :)

Senshi:

I got the below from this link:

http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/horary_astrology.htm

Finding the Answer

There must be an aspect between the ruling planet of the Querent and the ruler of the Quesited. Since separating aspects generally show what has already taken place, it is the applying aspects to consider. The conjunction, parallel, sextile and trine indicate a favorable outcome, with the latter two showing that little effort is needed to bring about a conclusion favorable for the Querent.
Squares and oppositions indicate obstacles and therefore are less likely to produce the outcome hoped for by the Querent. Since the 4th house governs the end of matters, if the 4th house from the subject is studied, it will provide these answers. For example, if it is a career concern, the 1st house is fourth from the 10th house, ruling over the query. If the question surrounds a friend, an 11th house subject, the 2nd house shows the end of matters in regard to such a question.

And this is precisely why I said that in my case, 8th house is the end of the matter and because of the opposition between 8th ruler Mercury and Jupiter, I think it may not have happened.

Didi:

My hubby has both his Sun (8th house) and moon (7th house) in Capricorn (from his natal chart).


Also, I think as Tikana already mentioned, the upcoming aspect between significators Mars and Jupiter in this case which forms a trine, definitely does indicate something. However, the problem is that these significators are placed in barren signs. So what is that supposed to indicate?

[tikana]

Ahh

Goca is Fensi88

Pardon

Cheers
T

[newbie]

ah! I didnt see that!
I thought you were talking in some other language.

Btw, do you know what cazimi means?

[tikana]

Yeah sure

Cazimi means that the planet is in the heart of the Sun.. it is conjunction within 17 minutes *not degrees* .. pretty much it means that the planet is reinforced and very strong..

Tik

[newbie]

hmm...thank you.
Another horary question, what if the significator of the querent and the significator of the quesited are the same? In this case, since the Moon becomes the co-significator of the querent, we have to see what the applying aspects between moon and the significator of the quesited? Just that?

[tikana]

Nod nod

plus pay attention on fertility .. sometime you wont get fertle planets but there is an aspect .. also pay attention to jupiter since it rules children according to Lilly, Frawley thinks that babies are Moon

Go figure!
Tik

[DiDi]

this is not a backed up survey.. okay but most people i know and have come to know and my own studies i have found a common theme with when baby is born.. it does not allways happen this way but is quite common in my dealings anyway.
as we are all linked with our children we find common signs amonst the partents like sun moon asc connections
my fav one is the first born child is born on the fathers moon sign or it can be the other way but you cant predict the babys moon:p
so if say your hubbys moon is cap count 9 months back, that could be when you will concieve.
but it can link to your own moon to.
however id say 40% of people i do these studyes on have the mans moon on the babys sun. lets hope you dont have to wait that long newby :p

[Neptune Rising]

I know its not horary, but Didi reminded me of something I've noticed from my own studies. I know four guys, fathers, who have nodal conjunctions with Saturn (one of them my own father). Two of them have their Saturn conjunct the childs North Node, and two the South Node.

I'm doing an experiment on a pal who has transiting Saturn coming up to his natal South Node in the near future:p.

[DiDi]

omg...:p :p :p
i just looked up my dads placements
his saturn 22gemini me.. north node 22 gemini
his north node 8 leo me... moon 5 leo


im going to see what else i can did up with my children to there dad:D

thanks neptune rising thats cool stuff

[newbie]

this is not a backed up survey.. okay but most people i know and have come to know and my own studies i have found a common theme with when baby is born.. it does not allways happen this way but is quite common in my dealings anyway.
as we are all linked with our children we find common signs amonst the partents like sun moon asc connections
my fav one is the first born child is born on the fathers moon sign or it can be the other way but you cant predict the babys moon:p
so if say your hubbys moon is cap count 9 months back, that could be when you will concieve.
but it can link to your own moon to.
however id say 40% of people i do these studyes on have the mans moon on the babys sun. lets hope you dont have to wait that long newby :p

Every month moon enters capricorn at some time or the other. So how do I count back 9 months? Like for ex., on 23 Jan 2009, Moon enters capricorn, then again, 19feb2009, it once again enters capricorn.

[DiDi]

no newbie... the sun in cap would be when you give birth
so 9 months b4 that...... you would get pregnant around march / april

going by that study only!

did you see neptune risings?
find out what saturn you or your partner is
then look up the north node and see when it either conjuncts it or opposes it?

sorry my post earlier was hard to understand

[newbie]

Does this always come true?

As you already mentioned correctly, since my hubby's sun is in capricorn and the next time that's gonna happen is Dec 2009, I would most like conceive in Mar/Apr of next year.

But in your previous post, you also mentioned that the baby could link to the mother's moon. What does that mean?

And I didnt understand your previous post.

Hubby's Saturn is in Virgo. North Node is in Virgo.
My Saturn is in Leo and North Node is in Libra.
There are no aspects whatsoever between Saturn and North Node in either of our natal charts.

[DiDi]

hi newby sorry this is the only way i know how to post your words

"But in your previous post, you also mentioned that the baby could link to the mother's moon. What does that mean"
answer..... just like we did with your hubby..
what ever your moon is in? say its virgo? count 9 months back from that sun sign wich would make it january u would concieve.
i do find its more the dads thou.
and it works about 75% of people i know, so its worth looking at? but not fullproof.

the second node aspect is new to me.. but the north node right now is in 19 aquarius so the south would be 19 deg leo
you said your saturn is in leo? whats the degrees because this could mean something? NR did say the father thoug..

[newbie]

I'm really sorry Didi.....everything is just going over my head.

You are talking in reference to natal chart or horary?

[DiDi]

can you message me with your and hubbies birthdates?