Greta86's Natal Chart Interpretation

[Arian Maverick]

Hello everyone! I have created this board for one of our newest members, greta86, who expressed a desire for a natal chart interpretation in another thread (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=961) on the Introductory Boards (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12).

Here is the natal chart...very interesting, no? :wink:

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1078/greta86lilithchart2aq.png (http://imageshack.us)

Aquarian Maverick

[Kite]

Very interesting when you consider that the singleton Chiron is the only hint of earth in the chart (besides the planets in the 10th house) and presence in the lower hemisphere.

I still focus on Chiron which is actually the apex point of a Yod from Neptune and Pluto. I sense this Chiron is represents wounding around the issues of self worth and being unable to connect with people on a very personal level. The transpersonal planets inconjuncting Chiron there in the 3rd house without any other aspects points to this foggy inner world seeking something to hold onto and to ground all the fire and air in the chart.

I would sense that relationships are incredibly important to be able to work towards the connectedness the North Node in Gemini is driving towards in the 4th house. However, with the ruler Mercury, conjuncting the South Node in Sag, there is a lot of circling back going on to familiar ground in the upper hemisphere (outer world) that keeps one living in the limelight - being the limelight.

It's almost Marilyn Monroe like in the glamour and sex symbol like stelliums in the 10th and 8th house. If it was Leo instead of Sag and Pisces instead of Libra, I would definately think we had a real movie star here. Sag though gives this more of the picture of the great adventurer, traveling the world with her high powered partner - jetsetter but haunted by the transformations, and the letting go that goes along with the Saturn and Pluto in Scorpio in the 8th house.

Moon Venus and Mars in Libra and 8 could go the glamour route but also go the route of unusual asthetic. Artist would not be out of the question but this artist would have to draw from the Chiron wounds to find the inner resource needed to express the themes potentially residing here. I think we have a potential bohemian here...someone who probably would have felt more at home in the 60s.

I too am Sag with Aquarian rising so I could very well be projecting some of my "stuff" here so caveats all over the place. Without any specific questions..that's my stream of consciousness for this very interesting chart.

Kite

[Kite]

By the Way - you could also make a GREAT Lawyer :!: :wink:

[wilsontc]

Greta86,

Since your planets are focused at the top of your chart, you are entirely focused on the outer world.

Since you have more planets on the right of your chart than the left you focus on others more than yourself

Since most of your planets are in the top right of your chart, you use what you know about relationships to do things for others in the outer world

You have the most energy in:
Expansion
Relationships

You have the strongest focuses in:
Transformation
Friends

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Charting,

Tim

[greta86]

Hey everyone,
Wow, thanks for being so welcoming! Thanks AM for posting my chart! Since I feel that my privacy is protected I feel like I can be more open. Having said that:

Kite, thank you! Perhaps my lack of earth could reflect my struggle with doing "practical" things (I have to write myself notes to remind myself to clean my room/ my biggest nightmare is working a 9 to 5 job in a cubicle/etc.)? My mother could vouch for this.

Chiron being the "apex point of a Yod from Neptune and Pluto"...does that make it more important, more focused? I don't seem to have any noticeable issues with self-esteem (although 90% of my girl friends do!), but I do have real issues with getting "close," especially with men. However, I just thought this was my Sagittarius influence.
The Marilyn Monroe similiarity rings a bit familiar in the sense that I am very focused on my looks, very aware of the attention I get from it (specifically from it, not anything else), but at the same time feel uncomfortable...a sort of love/hate relationship with the "limelight."
I have also traveled since I was younger, love the glamour of it (I love anything glamourous), and have about 10 different countries I plan to go to in the next 5 years. Hmm, what does "haunted by the tranformations",etc. mean, in regards with the planets in Scorpio in the 8th house?

I am also an artist (not professionally, but who knows, I have considered it). And although it's not apparant in my outward appearance, I am a total bohemian at heart. (I am getting my chart read, aren't I?)
I am extremely surprised at how true your description rings! Perhaps you guys are used to that?

:)

Hi Tim,

Thank you for your reply!
I researched my chart a bit and found this, too, but it's surprising to me. I often feel like I live in my "own little world," and I swing from being extremely extroverted, joking, loud (typical Sag, right?) to very introverted, quiet, self-reflecting...since I was a child.
Although I do focus more on others than I think is the norm. But then again, I have been called egotistical a couple times (and I have just spent 5 paragraphs writing about myself), so I guess that swings back and forth, too.

All in all, very interesting, and thank you! I can't wait to hear more!

Greta

[Kite]

This Chiron focus is important because it's the only earth in the chart and the only object in the lower hemishere (there might be some more asteroids).

As far as what Chiron means here, it's difficult to say but points to some kind of wounding. Perhaps the wound is related to your comment that people only see the beauty of your appearance. Ths would relate to the degree Chiron is in which is Sabian 30 Taurus. The reading for this degree is as follows:

60__(30°)
PEACOCK DISPLAYS ITS PLUMAGE ON LAWN OF OLD ESTATE Personal magnificence or unconscious splendor. Sure retreat for the solitary soul where it can reveal its inmost glory.
___*When positive, the degree is a special flair for dramatizing the heritage of the race or for capitalizing on the lessons of history in some special fashion, and when negative, a wholly unrewarded if not destructive self-contemplation.

What's also important is the balancing point or polarity point of the Yod which in this case is 30 Scorpio. This degree points to how you can take control of what's been cast for you. This degree reads:

240__(30°)
HALLOWE'EN GIVES SOCIAL RELEASE TO YOUTHFUL IMPISHNESS Need for giving free rein to unsocial instincts within the pale of social traditions. Planned release of inner pressure.
___*When positive, the degree is a gift for making the desires and ambitions of self not only of interest but of actual value to others, and when negative, ineptness of self-expression and contempt for established values.


Hope this was helpful.

Kite

[Frisiangal]

I can't remember where it was in the forums that I was browsing and saw the posts, but wouldn't Greta's chart apply for that of an 'indigo child?'
I think these are the same as what we call 'New Age children' in my country?

A little plea to Aquarian Maverick. Would you be willing to add Lilith
(under Chiron on astro. com) to the charts you generate, please? :)

F.

[Arian Maverick]

A little plea to Aquarian Maverick. Would you be willing to add Lilith
(under Chiron on astro. com) to the charts you generate, please?

A plea? That makes it sound like you are under my mercy...which, now that I think of it, perhaps you are if I am the one who creates/uploads the natal charts :twisted:

I'm just playing around with you, Frisiangal...of course I'll add Lilith to my charts! Just remind me :wink:

EDIT: Lilith is now added to the natal chart at the top of the page! :mrgreen:

Aquarian Maverick

[Kite]

I can't remember where it was in the forums that I was browsing and saw the posts, but wouldn't Greta's chart apply for that of an 'indigo child?'

Frisiangal,

Interesting question. Intuitively I think Greta has a lot of the charcteristics that have been written about, specifically the fire/air combination with little grounding . What else do you think might help us determine she's Indigo from the chart?

We had someone on the site recently doing research trying to correlate unaspected planets to being an Indigo. I have my Sun and Venus unaspected and have been read as an Indigo even though I'm 49 years old. Have you seen anything published in this area?

Kite

[Arian Maverick]

We had someone on the site recently doing research trying to correlate unaspected planets to being an Indigo.

Oh yeah, I remember! The thread can be found in the Introductory Board (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12) under the title Maverick interest in Unaspected Sun researching (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=973), if anyone is interesting in revisiting :wink:

Aquarian Maverick

[Frisiangal]

I can't remember where it was in the forums that I was browsing and saw the posts, but wouldn't Greta's chart apply for that of an 'indigo child?'

Frisiangal,

Interesting question. Intuitively I think Greta has a lot of the charcteristics that have been written about, specifically the fire/air combination with little grounding . What else do you think might help us determine she's Indigo from the chart?

We had someone on the site recently doing research trying to correlate unaspected planets to being an Indigo. I have my Sun and Venus unaspected and have been read as an Indigo even though I'm 49 years old. Have you seen anything published in this area?

Kite


I think I was banned for the day as I couldn't reply earlier :roll:

I found the posts again on the Spiritual Realm forum under 'Metaphysical Corner'. Someone provided a website which showed the charts of several indigos. I tried to find them again but no luck. Don't know what has happened to them. There were links to several books and magazines about the subject, though.

I can't offer any ideas regarding what might 'make'an indigo child, as I had never heard of the term until a few days ago. I thought it would have something to do with when the outers were all in the social signs and were heavily aspected by the big 7 within 3 following signs, indicating that such children were very special in bringing about the new world order of the Aquarian Age. But this isn't so, apparently. They appear to be the children for which''authority' is a dirty word :wink: Reading the article about them made me think of what one of my astro. teachers said in the 80's that "Saturn no longer seemed to be working." I noticed that Greta has an unaspected Saturn :)

I mentioned in another post elsewhere about the current period in which there are no planets in the Earth signs. If 'grounding' is an issue as you mentioned, perhaps the next wave of children is on the way.

ADHD children seem to be a phenomenon of this day and age, but I don't think of them of being indigo children as such, but more as children whose parents were brought up in the 'liberal upbringing' era of the 70's/80's. Discipline and authority were thrown out of the window over here then. The kiddies called mum and dad by their first names, teachers were buddies and they were allowed to 'let everything hang out' (with minor exceptions :D ). I think this is what my teacher meant by Saturn not working. How could those children, as parents in the 90's and this century when the indigo children 'appeared', teach their own children Saturn's ways if they didn't learn them themselves? Result? ADHD and many of the symptons that appear in the indigo children article. Maybe it's just co-incidence.

Someone else mentioned that every generation produces its special children, so I don't think the indigo's are any different, except by the name they are called.
But that's just me :lol:

F.

[Kite]

Unaspected Saturn..wow, didn't notice that. Not sure how that would play out in this chart but suspect it doesn't help ground and would stand up to authority since it is very close to the MC so would agree that maybe we have an indigo here.

The newer children are being called the Crystal kids as they're incarnating with cleared Karma. They are very sensitive and highly psychic. Many of the indigos are transforming into Crystal through working their Karma quickly.

I've noticed a few other charts similar to Greta's with no or little earth. lot's of bundles/locamotive patterns too which does lend towards the "system buster" role ascribed to the Indigos - sort of the steam roller approach.

Kite

[greta86]

Interesting discussion! Kite, could you explain what "working their Karma" means? So I can try it out. :wink:

As for me, my parents noticed I was extremely independent and "rebellious" since I was a toddler! I've grown more wise and introspective (thankfully) since then. But when someone--in authority or not--does something I disagree with... :evil:

[greta86]

This is off-topic, but I realized today that most of my close friends are earth signs. I must be subconsciously (in astrological terms?) balancing out my crazy fire/air energy. I feel more calm just being around them. However, I have the most fun with other fire signs!

Also, one more point: this might be a coincidence, but Scorpios tend to be very attracted to me. Almost every male Scorpio I've met obsessively pursues me, and I've had two very traumatic, incredibely intense friendships--the only friendships I've had like this-- with female Scorpios. Is there something in my chart that could explain this??? (ha ha, or are Scorpios just like that?) It is very, very strange.

Astrology is incredible, and I cannot believe how true it rings! It really is a science! Although, at the same time, that worries me a bit. I've been doing research on Unaspected Saturns, and it makes a huge deal out of it, usually in a negative way. How does one deal if, as Jimi Hendrix put it, one has been "born under a bad sign"? (and/or an aspect of a bad sign?) :)

Greta

[Kite]

I've been doing research on Unaspected Saturns, and it makes a huge deal out of it, usually in a negative way.

George W Bush has an unaspected Saturn in the 12th house. I'm not sure if this calms you or makes you worry more :wink:

I think the unaspected Saturn in Scorpio in the 8th house ruling your 12th house might cause you to want to test your boudaries because perhaps they might not be very apparant to you. Do you sometimes feel like it's hard to distinguish where you end and others begin? Or perhaps it works the other way where you find it difficult to merge with others and feel somewhat isolated.

I think the Scoprio friends things speaks to aspects of this since Satrun is in Scorpio and your friends either merge so strongly with you or work obsessively to break through. Any idea?