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tikana
07-19-2008, 11:53 AM
Hi

here is a question

right now

Merc is separating from jupiter
yet mars is applying to jupiter

is this translation of light?

thanks
Tik

fensi88
07-19-2008, 12:25 PM
Yes, you are right, that is translation of light from Ma to Ju by Me.

tikana
07-19-2008, 04:24 PM
Thanks

i read somewhere that it is only faster planet leaving the heavier heading to another heavy planet is TOL

in this case merc is lighter than mars

T

fensi88
07-19-2008, 05:33 PM
Yes Me is faster from other both.
By the way, this avatar is cool, much beter than previous one!

Summery Joy
07-20-2008, 08:51 PM
I'm not good with visualization without a chart, but that does not sound like TOL to me. In order for Mercury to translate light between Mars and Jupiter, it needs to be separating from one and applying to the other. In this scenario, Mercury is separating from Jupiter, but we do not know if it is applying to Mars. Where is the TOL?

tikana
07-21-2008, 10:06 AM
Sorehearted

thanks!

there is no chart .. i am just filling up my horary notes

say right now

Mercury 13 degrees
Mars is 11 degrees
JUpiter is 16

significators are Merc and Jupiter

Mercury is leaving
Mars is approaching Jupiter
Is this TOL?

thanks
Tik

fensi88
07-21-2008, 11:12 AM
I thought Ma and Ju were significatiors, but in this case, where Me and Ju are significators, Ma can not translate the light because it is not fasties planet!

tikana
07-21-2008, 11:23 AM
Fensi

that is the general understanding .. yeah you are right

take a look at here

http://books.google.com/books?id=RBWtOoX4pmUC&pg=PA45&dq=translation+of+light+horary&sig=ACfU3U1vjoWHLrG5UPDKE-trVEAPdeXU7Q#PPA45,M1

see he doesnt even mention the speed of planets being involved

Tik

fensi88
07-21-2008, 11:54 AM
Yes, thay did not mention speed.
On this site there are 3 examples of TOL in which speed is mentioned.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mcmcann/newpage1.htm

tikana
07-21-2008, 12:53 PM
Fensi

I am surprize that no one has written anything on
This is not TOL when blah blah blah!

Tik

Summery Joy
07-21-2008, 11:23 PM
Sorehearted

thanks!

there is no chart .. i am just filling up my horary notes

say right now

Mercury 13 degrees
Mars is 11 degrees
JUpiter is 16

significators are Merc and Jupiter

Mercury is leaving
Mars is approaching Jupiter
Is this TOL?

thanks
Tik

Mercury and Jupiter are likely to perfect their aspect before Mars gets to Jupiter. This is regular aspect perfection. No TOL.

tikana
07-21-2008, 11:25 PM
Thanks Sorehearted!