I need help for selecting a Wedding Day.

[IvyCreeping]

I need some help and input, please.

Electional/event astrology is really not my strong suit, and I could really use some input if you would be kind enough to offer your input.

I am trying to figure out the best time and day for a wedding. There are some restrictions, though, and I'm finding it difficult to get around them and get a good, sound day.

Here is what is desired: A Fall wedding with Jack-o-Lanterns in 2009.
Here are the restrictions: The Moon cycle is not helpful for October; I believe the Full Moon starts October 3, 2009, and there's no waxing Moon on a weekend until the 23rd, which places the Sun in Scorpio and the Moon in Capricorn (GAG!).

So, I did some charts and crunched some numbers and dates, and it looks like the best I can get is Venus and Mercury in Virgo. But, how bad is Venus and Mercury in Virgo? It's not worse than a Moon in Capricorn, is it?

Either way, this is what I have as an option:

October 2, 2009, 5:00 p.m. --
Sun: Libra - Moon: Pisces -- Mercury and Venus: Virgo -- Ascendent: Pisces -- Moon: 1 day before Full. Aries in 2nd house, Virgo in 7th house, Sagittarius at Midheaven.

Sun Trine Jupiter
Moon Opposition Mercury
Moon Opposition Venus
Moon Trine Mars
Moon Opposition Saturn
Moon Conjunction Uranus
Moon Square Midheaven
Mercury Conjunction Venus
Mercury Sextile Mars
Mercury Conjunction Saturn
Mercury Opposition Uranus
Mercury Square Midheaven
Venus Opposition Uranus
Venus Opposition Ascendant
Venus Square Midheaven
Mars Trine Uranus
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune
Jupiter Sextile Midheaven
Saturn Opposition Uranus
Saturn Square Pluto
Uranus Square Midheaven

Do you think this date is ok, or am I missing something? Is there anything that I need to change (and that is feasible to change about the date)? I don't know how I feel about the position of the planets in the 2nd and 7th houses, but I'm working with such restrictions that I don't know what to do. Also, if you need the birthdates/stats/charts of the prospective people, please tell me.

Thanks!

[Looking to Jupiter]

hi,
I dont know about anyone else, but i can picture charts like this......are you able to give us a chart or tell us where you are? I would love to look at the chart, but i actually have to see it. (but even then im not that good, so dont expect an expert opinion)

[IvyCreeping]

Oh, honey, I am so grateful for your input, expert or not!

Sure! I'll go make one now.

Ok, now that I went to make the chart on a different website, I am getting different risings from different websites -- the chart website is giving me a different rising for 5:00 p.m.. I don't get it. I'm very close to pulling out my book to just look it all up.

I'll display 5:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.. I would think the best Ascendents to have would either be Pisces or Taurus when faced with the options of Pisces, Taurus, Aries, and Aquarius.

If this wedding happens, it will most likely be in Michigan -- I put Macomb, MI as the place just for an idea.

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I hope this helps!

Thanks, again!

[Looking to Jupiter]

Hi Ivy,
I would look at the 5pm and 6pm charts.....i like the fact that the 9th house lord is in triplicity, but i wonder if you can get better? you relly need a strong 9th house lord as ceremonies are ruled by the 9th house.
I dont like the look of jupiter in the 12th in the 6pm chart...im leaning towards 5pm.....but i still wonder if there is scope to change the time further to try and find a stronger 9th house lord....?

[IvyCreeping]

I can look at Saturday, as well, all day. Just to be clear: 9:00 and 8:00 are out?

You are so awesome for helping me -- if you are ever in Michigan, I would love to make you cookies! :) Thanks so much!

I'll pull up some charts later and sift through to see what I can come up with.

[lillyjgc]

Ivycreeping,
I have had a little bit of experience with election charts for weddings.I prefer to use my own program though...If I can manage to get an hour or so spare, I'll see what I can come up with...
So- you want an early evening wedding in Fall (Is *Fall* where you are, Sept, Oct Nov 2009?
Before I can proceed, I need to know if there are restrictions regarding: preferred /necessary day of the week, time of the day (obviously there are here-you mention jack o lanterns so I'm thinking you want a wedding that commences early evening?)
If you can let me know how much flexibility there is I will happily take a look.
Cheers (and congratulations, btw)
Lillyjgc

[Looking to Jupiter]

lilly, do you look at the 9th too?

[lillyjgc]

LTJ
Personally I look more at the tenth as I view a wedding as being a Formal Public Event.
Cheers, Lillyjgc

[Moulin]

be mindful of Saturn quincunx Neptune, Saturn opposing moon (all within 3 degs!!!)

Not the best aspects for a marriage date :(

[cjc]

...But what about your natal chart? Transits? Progressions?

[IvyCreeping]

You guys are all so wonderful!!! I have been so stressed out about this date that I could scream!!

So, I prefer to get married on a Friday evening, any time that is 5:00 p.m. and after. Also, I prefer it to be in October so that the Jack-O-Lanterns make sense (I want my colours to be red, orange, and yellow, like Fall leaves), but I can do late September. And yes, the Fall is September, October, and November where I am.

I can do a Saturday wedding, and the actual time of the wedding can be earlier in the day if it is a Saturday. I don't want to do Sunday, but if I have to, I will.

The whole problem is that with the Moon waning for the majority of October, there's very little wiggle room. The stats for the end of October are awful, in my amateur opinion, at least.

I looked at October 23rd and September 25th; either one would have been perfect, but the the Moon is in Capricorn both days...I just don't know what to do to fix it! I guess I'm shooting for the lesser evil. :/

Thanks again for all of your help...it's just so wonderful for you guys to help me out with this! Thanks for the congratulations, as well! I will do any/all leg work that needs to be done, and I've spent the last few days looking at charts!

[IvyCreeping]

Good thinking, CJC. I will post our charts here, and look our transits after this weekend.

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[Inside Out Orange]

I took a look at the dates in mid-late October (15th-22nd) yesterday ... IIRC there are some nice aspects on those days ... something like you get Jupiter/Chiron/Neptune in close conjunction circa 22Aq; with trines from the Sun and Mercury in Libra. But I think there were some flipsides most notably Venus/Uranus opposition and Pluto-Venus square.

It's tough because you won't find a 'perfect' chart. All you can do is hope to remove the real killer aspects and optimise the happy ones.

[lillyjgc]

Ok, I have been working on this...I have a date that looks *OK* . Let me post the chart then I'll explain my reasons.
Data:

17/Oct 2009
Michigan USA
Lat: 42.42N
Long:082:58W
12.32 Aries rising.
(placidus cusps)
Chart set for noon.



One problem I had was *what about Saturn*? It will be nearing the end of its journey through Virgo, and as it approaches Libra it moves toward a square with pluto at .59 mins into capricorn. This is not a very happy aspect to have in a wedding chart. Saturn is dignified in Libra-the sign of partnership, so I'm tempted to suggest waiting til after that square has occurred, but given the constraints....

In this chart, I have loaded up the tenth house with venus right on the MC as the most elevated planet. It leaves the conjunction to Saturn, which I have seen in quite a few wedding charts- love being stabilised by the Saturnian structure of marriage.Saturn is Ok in the ninth...it well describes the signing of spiritual/legal documents in Mercury's sign Virgo. It is still within orb of the sextile to mars.Mars has just started to go through Leo, and the sun here is also in Libra..The ninth is ruled here by the sun which is strongly placed in the tenth.

The moon applies a trine to jupiter (natural ruler of the ninth) but co- ruler of the eighth house of *shared resources*and the eleventh house of friends, in this chart.
The stellium in house ten should ensure a very Libran style union...The moon also applies to a trine with Neptune, which gives it a spiritual context.

This chart , set for noon on saturday 17 october 2009 in Michigan, has the moon as part of a stellium in the tenth, in libra, 7 degrees away from a new moon (new beginnings) and this is in the tenth also.
I've given Jupiter the rulership of the ascendant and placed it in the second house of possessions, ruled by Saturn (in the ninth but near the tenth). The ascendant will trine Jupiter in 5 units of time.Jupiter is quintile Fortuna (nice).
The moon's conjunction with the sun will complete the lunar cycle.
Now, I know *some* will say a combustion of sun and moon is *bad bad bad* but in this case I think it might work because the ruler of the wedding is Venus and the moon is in Venus sign and getting extra dignity by house placement. If you wait til after the moon leaves the sun, it will be void and i think the houses are right for this chart.

Of course there's a few things I dislike about this chart too- but later in the Fall brings the Saturn/pluto square too close for my liking.
I'm not excited about the sun applying to a square with mars, but to some extent this is offset by the still-within-orb sextile of venus and mars-only 2 deg separation there. Maybe this indicates a change of residence as mars rules the fourth in this chart.

I welcome further input/comments....It was not easy to find a window of opportunity in what looks like a very difficult sky through October....
Cheers, Lillyjgc

[IvyCreeping]

Edit: Sorry -- I didn't see that you had posted that information before I had posted this, Lilly!

You're right, the probability of having an astrologically perfect date with all of these restrictions is just sad.

Thank you for your research! Unfortunately, the 15th-19th are out due to it being a waning Moon. :(

Ugh, this is so frustrating. I went to the book store last night and tried to find a book on event astrology, and there was nothing. I guess I'll just keep looking and calculating.

Moulin -- If I changed the time, could that change those aspects?

Lilliy -- Did you have any luck with that program?

Thanks again, everyone -- you are so sweet for helping me!

[lillyjgc]

The reasons I dont like the 2nd October charts is the fact that you have moon conjunct uranus:eek: (the *anything can happen aspect*) ...in house 12...:eek: opposite...gasp! venus mercury and saturn in h6 the house of illness!!!!:eek: (Don't serve the salmon mousse!)

House 12 is an evil house and you need to keep it pretty empty and as weak as possible.
Cheers, Lillyjgc

[lillyjgc]

Marriage rules for Electional Astrology
1.There should be no squares from the Moon and it should not be void of course. A waxing Moon is better than a waning one.

Okay- my chart shows no squares from the moon but it is waning...

2. Fixed signs rising are best when a long lasting relationship is needed.

The problem here is that fixed signs on the angles involve the following choices (re time of the day and time frame of your wedding opportunity)

They would have to be Aquarius, on the asc, making Saturn the ruler and Saturn is not strong and also void til it moves into Libra, (in November I think). Also it was hard to keep planets out of the eighth house during that period at the times you specified.I would not like to place Neptune in the first house either.


3. A relationship usually works well when the ruler of the Ascendant and Descendant are in good aspect to each other.

In the chart I have posted, Jupiter and mercury apply to a trine- perfect!

4. The luminaries Sun and Moon should be in good aspect to each other.
I guess that depends how you view the *new moon* conjunction.
5. Saturn should not be in an angular house.
Saturn is in house 9.

6. Uranus should not be in the angular houses, especially the 1st and 7th.
Uranus is in house 3 in my chart suggestion.

7. The luminaries Sun and Moon, as well as Venus and Jupiter should be above the horizon.

The sun, moon venus are- jupiter just *can't be* at that time.

8. Venus ruling female and Mars ruling male should be in harmonious aspect to each other.

Yes, they are sextile.
9. Moon in Leo brings about better compatibility among the duo involved.
Moon in Libra is quite acceptable in wedding charts-usually desired.

10. A retrograde Venus should be avoided at all costs.
Venus is direct, angular and exalted in Libra. What more do you need??
The houses in Electional Astrology
1st house- person making the electional chart, the one who is to do the task.

I guess that's you....
2nd house- money and possessions.

Yes- here ruled by Saturn who will soon move into the sign of exaltation. Jupiter there, sextile ascendant!

3rd house- brothers and sisters, cousins, neighbors, short journeys, communications.

Neptune is there, but the moon is trine it...As ruler of h3 is Saturn and sat is in ninth perhaps the relatives will have to travel?

4th house-real estate, house, father, property, fixed possessions, the final result of an undertaking.

Ruled by Mars who is in Leo (not too bad) which is sextile to ruler of house 2 and house 3, suggesting gains in possessions..

5th house- children, love affairs, holidays, places of amusement, investment and speculation.

ruled by venus here, and venus is strong and well aspected.

6th house- health problems, servants, employees, pets , food and clothing, uncles and aunts on the father’s side, tenants.

ruled also by venus, so great!

7th house- the husband or wife, Defendants in lawsuits, the opponent in contests, business partners, contracts, business speculations, public and open enemies.

Mercury rules the seventh and is in the tenth (good) trine your ruler-great!

8th house- death, wills, inheritances, money of the husband/wife or partner; help received by opponents.

The moon rules this house and the moon is in Libra, so again, back to Venus!

9th house- religion, science, philosophy, the Church and the law, long journeys and voyages, publications and publishing.

Ruled by the sun here in Venus's sign also!

10th house- honor, credit, fame, authority, business and occupation, mother.

Ruled by Venus with 3 planets there!

11th house- friends, acquaintances, hopes, desires and wishes.

Friends are ruled by Mars, in the sun's sign so again, back to venus...

12th house- prison, mental hospitals, confinement, limitation, persecution, treachery, secret enemies.
I put Fortuna there so you will get help from *behind the scenes*-even *divine intervention*. Fortuna is in lucky ole Jupiter's sign too, optimistic Sag.. sextile venus, trine mars, and quintile jupiter.

I mean, really this is not too bad!

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

The groom is signified by the Ascendant, Sol, and the planet Luna is next applying to. The bride by the Descendant, Venus, and the planet Luna is last separating from. Obviously we want good aspects and receptions between these planets.

What happens during the marriage is signifed by the Tenth house, the end of the marriage is the Fourth. Be wary of that.

[erinj]

Hello

Also I wanted to note from my experiences with electional charts:

Moon should not make any squares and if possible avoid oppositions especially if the last aspect the moon makes is an opposition aspect.
Try to keep all malefics out of angles
In wedding charts you want the best Venus aspects available
With New Moons the moon should be increasing in light at minimum 9 - 10 degrees so that the Sun wont block its lights.
Yes avoid Venus retrogrades and also Mars too. Please also note if within the the first 5 years if Mercury will turn retrograde because that too may cause communication breakdown and conflicts. (Especially since the first 5 years in a marriage is most critical time for it sets the tone of the marriage) If you need to say your vows separately on another day and have your celebration later it may help you in the long run. I know a couple who said there I do's on a weekday and had their celebration on the weekend day. You want to start the marriage with the best energies possible so please consider that first and foremost. Many couples get caught up in the celebration, beautiful dress but not the actual marriage so please give that the most careful consideration> Please keep us informed and CONGRATULATIONS!

[lillyjgc]

erinj,

I agree with most of this -except for:

Please also note if within the the first 5 years if Mercury will turn retrograde because that too may cause communication breakdown and conflicts. (Especially since the first 5 years in a marriage is most critical time for it sets the tone of the marriage)

Mercury goes retrograde 3 times a year>

Are we working on a chart that is good for the *marriage*? or good for a *wedding day*?

I tried to go for both in my proposed chart.
Cheers,
Lillyjgc

[Looking to Jupiter]

I just wondered this....because i think it makes a difference....are you marrying in a church? if you are I would definitely look to the 9th. Marriage isnt just a ceremony when it happens in a church...its a sacrement too.....

[cjc]

Marriage is also a major contract.... 9th house

[erinj]

Hi

The mercury retrograde I was referring to is the progression of your marriage chart when/if Mercury is to go retrograde within the 4 or five days after your marriage

[IvyCreeping]

WOW! Lilly, you did so much work for me!! Thank you!
All of you have been so kind and giving your knowledge and helping me out -- I'm just stunned!!!

Lilly, is the waning Moon going to be bad on the 17th, though? I'm Pagan, and we have a big thing about waning Moons on ritual days...New Moon could work, but would be officially be considered the New Moon that day?
I so appreciate everything you've done for me! It is so wonderful!

Looking to Jupiter, I do not intend to get married in a church -- I want to get married somewhere pretty, by a judge. :)

Please keep us informed and CONGRATULATIONS!

I surely will keep you informed, and thanks so much for the congratulations! It is much appreciated!!

[IvyCreeping]

Ok, I've been fooling around with charts and what not, and I'm getting so frustrated.

Would I be able to get like, a private, secret ceremony on a good day some time before the, "Wedding Day," where I actually get married legally, and then have another day where we walk down the aisle, have the reception and everything on another day? If we did that, would the reception and ceremony not be affected if we were already legally married? Or could we count the day we apply for the marriage license as the most important day? I'm incredibly superstitious, and that waning moon on the 17th is worrying me, and on the 2nd, you guys were right, the 12th house is LOADED and the 6th house...ugh...but, maybe I could do this worst case scenario? I don't know.

Does September 19th, or September 25th or 26th look good at all? And is the 3rd of October completely out? I'm terrified of having planets in the 4th, 6th, 8th, and 12th houses, so I'm having a bit of trouble, seeing that I have no idea which planets would be good in which houses.

[Looking to Jupiter]

Thanks for clearing that up Ivy.....the 10th house is the house to be looking at I guess...

Congratulations......hope it all goes well for you!

[IvyCreeping]

Huh?
I'm not sure what I said about the 10th house...but thank you for your kind words!

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Would I be able to get like, a private, secret ceremony on a good day some time before the, "Wedding Day," where I actually get married legally, and then have another day where we walk down the aisle, have the reception and everything on another day?

It might sound silly, but I have actually had a couple do this. They had the real marriage on an astrologically auspicious day and then had the "stage" marriage on a more convinent day for everyone to be there. A friend of theirs and I worked together on making their wedding election chart (I bet I still have it somewhere) and they got married secretly at that time.

It's worked out well for them. I'd totally for that if it's an option. Unfortunately I can't find their chart, but maybe my helper-monkey (love you!) will have it.

[IvyCreeping]

Thanks for telling me that someone else actually did that, because I might feel silly doing it without knowing someone else hasn't! :)

I would just need to talk someone else into doing it! Haha! :)

[Looking to Jupiter]

i was saying to look at the 9th Ivy, but Lilly is right looking at the 10th

[IvyCreeping]

Oh!
I think a lot of us are going to learn something here. :)

Would anyone be able to also look at the aspects for October 1st? It's looks ok to me, but I'm not 100% sure.

I love you all. :)

[cjc]

You're pagan? Well, my brother is a pagan priest (true), and seeing as how worked up and paranoid you're getting over this, may I suggest you do what he did... Just shack up!

Seriously. You're geting so paranoid, that if you found a grand trine in one electional chart you would panic because it's the nature of a grand trine to have all planets fall on the others' midponts in a grand trine and some of them may have be on bad planetary trees.

As a hard driving neswpaper editor, I would hold deadlines and presses for any late breaking info on a good story. Until one day my publisher pulled me aside, and said, "Look, you gotta stop somewhere."

I wasn't into astrology when I got married in 1972, so I ******* (phonetically, skru...) up royally. But it was transits to natal that ******* me. Granted the Ceremony chart wasn't nirvanah, either.

My advice would be look for the best transits to the 2 natals and composite. Possibly limit calculations to the traditionals just to clear the clutter. Then pick a few dates and check the ceremony times. Look for BIG Flags. Compromise... and then shack up. ;-}>

Let's face it. No chart is perfect. No astrologer is perfect You could be going through all this work and anxiety and miss something minor. Or, overemphasize something minor. That's one of the reasons I say just use the traditionals here unless there is some teriffic transit to a personal planet.

A head shot with a gun is more frequently lethal than a body shot, but law/military trainees are taught to go for the bigger target becaues they have more chance of hitting it.

Take a deep breath and... KISS (Keep it simple, silly)

c

[IvyCreeping]

Well, even though I'm Pagan, I still really want a beautiful wedding -- just...no Christian stuff.

I know, though...I am being overly paranoid...I just want everything to be ok. I'm just super worried. Thank you for your advice. When an astrologer is telling you to calm down, then you should probably just calm down. I suppose none of the days have almost every planet in the 12th house or something scary like that, right?

[lillyjgc]

Ivycreeping,
If youre a pagan, the NEW MOON would be the ideal time to tie the knot (I mean tourniquet!..just kidding).
Cheers, Lillyjgc

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

I don't think the religious views or method of marriage should at all be accounted for when we're considering astrological timing...

[Looking to Jupiter]

I don't think the religious views or method of marriage should at all be accounted for when we're considering astrological timing...

I do......when marriage is in a church it is considered a sacrament.....other marriages are just ceremonies......not there is a problem with that, its just the focus of the actual marriage is different....i would never use the 10th house in a church wedding.....would you Kai? I would like to know how you incorporate the religious focus of the ceremony...............

[IvyCreeping]

Lilly and Kai -- Well, Pagans feel that either Waxing, Full, or New Moons are good for marriage. If you want the ideal Moon phase, you should either pick the Full or New Moon, though -- both of those are at the height of their power. But, I get nervous with both of those phases because you have to be SURE that's the phase the Moon is in. Right before the New Moon (like, the DAY before the New Moon) is the strongest banishing Moon there is, and that would be an AWFUL time to get married. The Full Moon is good, too, but you have to make sure that it is not already waning.

Hehehe! Tourniquet! :p

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

i would never use the 10th house in a church wedding.....would you Kai?

Of course I would foritfy the Tenth house in a marriage election. This house holds what happens during the marriage, this is not a house to be ignored.

Lilly and Kai -- Well, Pagans feel that either Waxing, Full, or New Moons are good for marriage. If you want the ideal Moon phase, you should either pick the Full or New Moon, though -- both of those are at the height of their power. But, I get nervous with both of those phases because you have to be SURE that's the phase the Moon is in. Right before the New Moon (like, the DAY before the New Moon) is the strongest banishing Moon there is, and that would be an AWFUL time to get married. The Full Moon is good, too, but you have to make sure that it is not already waning.

At this point it seems like you're going to have to choose between the rules of astrological timing and the Pagan ideology. A compromise, though, would be to choose the Waxing Moon

[Looking to Jupiter]

msn Kai? am i blocked? everyone is blocking me these days :(

[IvyCreeping]

At this point it seems like you're going to have to choose between the rules of astrological timing and the Pagan ideology. A compromise, though, would be to choose the Waxing Moon

Well, I don't really have to choose between the two because getting married on a Waxing Moon is perfectly acceptable in Pagan ideology -- I want to have some sort of Waxing Moon! Haha! I just have to make sure everything else is ok.

Phew...electional astrology is very difficult. Who ever gets paid to do this stuff most likely earns every penny they get honestly!

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Well, I don't really have to choose between the two because getting married on a Waxing Moon is perfectly acceptable in Pagan ideology -- I want to have some sort of Waxing Moon! Haha! I just have to make sure everything else is ok.

Yeah, that's why I offered it as a suggestion.


Phew...electional astrology is very difficult. Who ever gets paid to do this stuff most likely earns every penny they get honestly!

Tell me about it... -.-

[lillyjgc]

I checked- Mercury isnt retrograde during or after the relevant period.Thanks for mentioning it Erinj, I may have overlooked that very important point otherwise.
Lillyjgc

[Radu]

Hi Ivy

I did an wedding electional for a client some time ago and after lots of thinking ended up with several results, of which there is one that is not expired yet and you could also use.

Unfortunately it's on Friday morning, so probably not appropriate from a social point of view. I think however that as marriage is an major event that is supposed to be not only very special but also last for life, social considerents are less important.

Chart set for September 12, 2008 at 9:40 am EDT, Malcolm MI.

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As you see, Venus is placed in the Ascendant, very powerful in its own sign, therefore totally expressing the Venusian nature. Venus is in trine with Chiron (which is considered as a "Cinderella aspect", with reference to the poor girl that eventually found the prince of her dreams). There is also a Moon-Venus trine that takes this even further, and a wider Venus-Neptune trine. So this is a totally romantically fulfilling chart.

The Moon is waxing and free of any afflictions with only good aspects to go.

There are only two questions marks - one is the separating Venus-Mars conjunction (1st and 7th house rulers) - which would stand for a peak of attraction between spouses then it would decrease little by little; but partly this considerent is countered by both of these planets applying to Mercury - so reason will brings things to normal.

Another considerent is the Sun-Uranus opposition, which is a strong influence of unsettlement and independence, quite opposite to the any legal binds. This influence is however in the background both planets being in cadent houses.

The electional chart ASC & Venus falls right on Boy's Midheaven and close to Girl's Sun (even if in the 12th house) - so that's pretty good, too.

Not sure if you're going to accept this chart though. Your choice. Your life.

[lillyjgc]

Hi:
Radu: This chart is EDT time.I'm not sure if theres a difference in time zones involved here-for Ivy...Would that change the time? (For example, in my country this chart would occur about 14 hours earlier, I think).
Cheers Lillyj.

[Radu]

Yes, in Michigan they use Eastern Time.

[IvyCreeping]

So sorry I've been inactive at the board for a long time! I had to move!

Thank you so much for doing that chart for me! It looks like you put in a lot of hard work! I will consider it, for sure.

I also decided to bite the bullet and go to a local astrologer here for another view, so we'll see what she has to say. But, thanks to Radu, I totally have another option open! I really appreciate it! :)

By the way...

What program or website did you use to make that Natal Chart? It is SO easy to read -- I love it.

[Radu]

Janus - download from www.astrology-house.com

[IvyCreeping]

Thank you so much! :)