non-radical charts

[tikana]

Hey people

my friend has a hobby of throwing away charts with 1 sign of non-radicality

Saturn near asce
Asce - early / late
moon void
and etc

i think most charts are containing some sort of non-radical. I say read them all but what do you say?

cheers
T

[AineB]

Tik - Yeah I agree with you.. I think there is probably always a way to read something. Like say someone knows a little bit of Spanish, but not enough to really communicate fluently. They could still read something in Spanish and get the gist of it, but not really get the entire info all at once! :) I bang my head constantly with Tarot and sometimes it's not until later that the whole picture comes to light and the few glimmers of info I DID get still points in the same direction! Same with astrology.. it might not ALL be there, but you can still find something that'll still give ya hints! :)

[tikana]

AineB

aha.. i think non-radicality from what i noticed make me believe that the expectations may be set too high or too low.

the person may not see an entire picture as you say ...

thanks for explaining
Tik

[AineB]

EXACTLY!! Like the expectations might more or less be what they might or might not want. But there's still always something there giving them that nudge in the right direction. Whether or not it turns out how they expected or the path became "bumpy" at some point, they still had an inkling of the outcome.

[LionKing]

From what I know (that isn't much, ha!) early or late asc would inform you of the time of the question during the circumstance. Too early to ask or too late and it's already done. And from the material that I have read... the astrologer should take note that there isn't a malific planet in the 7th house. The 7th house would also reflect the astrologer. I'm sure this is correct, but I will dig out my books and re-read the notes. V/r LionKing:sunny:

[tikana]

LionKing

I am not really asking about non-radical conditions it is just i am asking
How do exceptions / non radical charts affect the outcome or the judgement of the chart
there must be a reason why they are there

i strongly believe that every chart is readable

Tik

[Neptune Rising]

Yup I agree, every chart says something, even if its just, "stop asking the same question, 29 degrees Ascendant!":p

NR

[LionKing]

I'm sort of like that "read them all" also. But.... egh... I won't put my money on a horse with no legs. Ha! (Just kidding) Ok... now... in "Anthony Louis Horary Astrology Plain and Simple" on page 14 is as follows;

Saturn in the 7th. Does Saturn lie in the 7th house and thereby restrict the astrologer? Some modern astrologers believe that Pluto in the 7th house acts like Saturn. Is the ruler of the 7th house, which signifies the astrologer, aflicted?

Now Anthony Louis doesn't clearly answer anything with that, but... hey at least they are asking the near same question. I just thought I'd write for no cause at all... ha! Take care V/r LionKing

[tikana]

LionKing

okay but what do you do when Saturn rules asce or rules the house in question

see there is an exception within exception

T

[LionKing]

Very good. I was thinking that... maybe Anthony Louis had it on his mind when he wrote that. I mean what if what we call a "malific planet" is actually a bonified significator? I guess that is what divides the good astrologers who can see in between all of this, from the inexperience ones.
V/r LionKing :sunny: (Very good T)