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Arian Maverick
03-04-2006, 09:23 PM
Since Radu created the new Fixed Stars Board (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17&sid=d512e373da1ce4a013e1d68d2437730a) on the forums, I have been inspired to explore the influence that non-planetary bodies may exert on one's natal chart. I am particularly interested in Vesta, since it makes the most EXACT conjunction I have seen in my chart thus far (with my ruling planet Uranus)...and that is saying something, with my Aries stellium of Sun/Venus/Mercury within one degree.

Any astrological or intuitive insights would be greatly appreciated :mrgreen:

Aquarian Maverick

Draco
03-04-2006, 09:33 PM
Hi Beth,

Vesta is a brand of matches where I come from, Vesta being goddess of fire. I don't see the ***-teroids as valid to be honest, but if you feel that it is significant then Vesta would be fiery, intense and a bit of a hot potato I suppose - but then so are a hundred other assteriods name after various fiery gods. ;)

If you inserted all of the thousands and thousands of assteroids into your chart, you would have hundreds of them conjunct every planet and cusp. What would Yokisamazuko, Johnsmith or HD9200 mean in our charts??

Sorry to be so skeptical upon the ***-teroids, but then I've never been one to swallow my opinion. :?

The only way to determine what Vesta means is by going off it's name, but it could have been called anything.

No one could respond to my Yuudoronusato post, because in not being able to attach any symbolic significance to the name, no one can attach any meaning to it. Yet either all of the assteriods are valid or not of them are, we can't just pick and choose because of the name if you know what I mean. :) We have more than enough with the planets in our charts for a lifetime of study.

Explore Vesta by all means, just letting off my steam about assteroids. It is quite odd really that I was the one who asked Radu for the assteroids board, but I've changed my mind since then. :?

Draco ;)

Radu
03-04-2006, 09:48 PM
Let's see...

Known as The Virgin and The Sister, Vesta represents the powerful woman who sees beyond the scope of herself. Her motivation is the goodness and fulfillment of a greater cause -- an uplifting of the soul or the education of a generation. Mother Teresa and Princess Diana both demonstrated Vesta's concern for the masses.

Women with strong spiritual convictions, who believe deeply in their causes, often have a strong Vesta influence on their lives. These women know a lot about their areas of expertise and others often consult them for guidance. They remain focused, even become workaholics, but are so devoted to their work, they can't envision living any other way.

I think it describes you pretty well: Vesta exactly conjunct Uranus in the 11th house of your chart expresses perfectly your selfless dedication to this astrology forum, a kind of forumholic ;)
So, there was more than just a South Node in Virgo. Vesta explains a lot.... Congrats for finding out more about your true self.

Arian Maverick
03-04-2006, 10:03 PM
Thanks, Radu! I had a feeling this "***-teroid" had a greater meaning for me...I love the term by the way, it reminds me of the Uranus jokes! :lol:

EDIT: Here's an exerpt I found from a sample asteroid report for Robin Williams :mrgreen:

Vesta

The asteroid Vesta (Latin) is named after the ancient Greek goddess Hestia, first born of the Olympian deities and last released by her father Cronos (father Time), who at one point swallowed all his offspring. Thus she denotes the beginning and the end - alpha and omega - and serves as a reminder of the source from which all things originate and to which all must return. She represents the preservation of sacredness and the state of connection to formless Essence. As such, she is the only Olympic deity not worshipped anthropomorphically; she is symbolized only by the altar and its sacred flame. Thus she also represents any sacred space - be it temple, sweat lodge, or meditation corner - that acts as a container in which we may center ourselves, and feel the presence of Spirit. In ancient times Vesta was worshipped both in the city center as the flaming altar, and in every home as the central hearth whose embers were literally passed on down through the generations from mother to daughter when the daughter married and established her own hearth. In this manner Vesta came to represent the perpetuation of the spark of life, and of civilization and one's ancestral and cultural roots.

In early matriarchal societies, priestesses honoring Hestia maintained a connection to this spiritual essence (represented by a sacred flame that they tended night and day). They offered themselves in sacred sexual union in order to teach the divine aspect of sexuality and the need to remain aware of the sacred while engaged in physical life. The priestesses remained unmarried and committed to none but themselves and their worship. Their sons (conceived anonymously during ceremonial summer solstice rites) served as year-kings when there was no royal heir. These customs were finally abolished when patrilineal traditions were enforced and the priestesses were compelled by the Roman king to serve as keepers of the new (patriarchal) civilization and to observe vows of celibacy. To break these vows entailed a cruel death penalty. In exchange for the relinquishment of their sexuality, matrilineal customs, and true spiritual function, the priestesses (Vestal Virgins) were granted freedom from paternal control.

Vesta's sacred flame represents, in the yogic tradition, the kundalinii force which, when properly awakened and channeled, leads to spiritual development. Thus, astrologically, Vesta has come to represent both spirituality and consecrated (or desecrated) sexuality. This can include a wide range of sexual expressions such as abstinence, renunciation and celibacy, the celebration of spiritually honored sexuality, sexual idealism, and the sacred whore. Astrologically, Vesta stands for that which provides us with inner sustenance; the way in which we are pulled back to our core or inner self; and the struggle between this and the demands of the outer world. Vesta represents the way in which we long to bless others with the fruits of the spiritual resources we have found within ourselves, but it is also the need to retreat and preserve our inner sanctuary against any disrespectful intrusion. Vesta is associated with dedication, focus, and commitment. She represents those things that helps us focus, the way in which we dedicate ourselves with heart and soul, and that for which we are ready (or compelled) to make a sacrifice. The things indicated by Vesta's position in your chart may be things that you feel compelled to give up or sacrifice, often out of a sense of spiritual compulsion. Yet they can also be the very things that evoke your dedication - leading to a sense of deep inner fulfillment when you are willing to make some sacrifices on their behalf. Keep this paradox in mind as you read on, for Vesta can express itself one way or the other - or both!

Uranus Conjunct Vesta:

Vesta is conjunct Uranus. Your ability to commit yourself passionately to that which connects you to a sense of the Sacred may be expressed in revolutionary or unconventional ways. The need for freedom, independence, change and experimentation may color your spiritual and/or sexual expression. You may have exceptionally brilliant insight into the connection between kundalini, healing, and spiritual-sexual energies. Collective or group settings may provide an avenue through which you can access, express, or heal these aspects of yourself. You may dedicate yourself to humanitarian, "new age," or activist ideals, or you may harbor a passionate commitment to technology, science, or the abstract.

Aquarian Maverick

Arian Maverick
03-05-2006, 09:43 PM
I found another reading from Astro Profile (http://www.astroprofile.com/celeb2005astropdf/CamillaGoddess.pdf) that I think applies to me quite well :wink:


Aquarian Maverick

P.S. Do you suppose that this Uranus/Vesta conjunction may relate to my special interest in procreation?



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Kite
03-05-2006, 10:16 PM
My progressed Sun had moved to conjunct progressed Vesta opposing Natal Uranus during my midlife crisis. It was a very hard time as I needed to make an important decision regarding my marriage and commitment.

I made the right decision. My progressed moon will be meeting up with her again in about 5 months. Hopefully she'll wink at me (Vesta that is).

Kite

Buai
03-07-2006, 01:17 AM
Hi Draco,

I think the "Asteroids", ahem, are as worthy as any other body in our solar system, yours and mine included.
That we are an intimate part of the "whole", and not all that aware of it as a collective, doesn't really detract from that "fact".

So if that at all resonates with you(?), from that point of view it is up to us (eventually) as a collective, to "realise and reintegrate" these fragmented aspects of who we are (I think the Asteroids are the consequence of a planet being blown up? i'm not sure).

(I have Vesta/Ceres/Venus/Mercury within 4 degrees of each other in the 12th house, and have Juno/Chiron/Pallas conj Sth Node in Pisces 10th-11th house)

Seems that we eventually arrive at the time when it is "cosmically appropriate" for us to re-connect ("discover") with the energies (Planets, Moons and Asteroids (fixed stars too)) associated with various fragments (ours) that are a consequence of that destruction, so long ago.
I guess we will eventually meet them all ?
"The teacher arrives when the student is ready..."

So far we have the main Planets and Moons, some Asteroids, and our Sun (GC is in town too now).
Perhaps as we evolve (and we are very quickly now), we will less need to have a "reflection" of ourselves through the Planets etc, and some will recede into a finer and finer "oneness"...as we will, to make way for the birth of other celstial bodies yet to be even contemplated as possibly out there(/in here)
They too evolve through eternity with us, as us, as one being.
Even the ones that we don't know anything about.

I can't imagine us being cluttered with a "peak hour" Horoscope.
Unless of course we went out of our way to deny the integration of "ALL that came before", that could be quite a bit of unwanted homework...

"I feel", Asteroids are a reflection of the "dysfunctional" in need of acknowledgement and reintegration into our true hearts and lives, in a way that acknowledges pure intent. Gods

I know very little about Asteroids, (only have Demetra Georges book) but I know they are a part of the reasons why we as a collective are not quite "together".
It's a mess! look at all those tiny "bits of stuff" floating aimlessly in orbit out there, "apparently" dead.
Thats alot of jigsaw pieces, they will no doubt eventually be put in their righful place relative to our Selves, because that's what they are.
We are not separate from any "thing" ever, especially not the sacred remains of a "celestial body".
...I'm not sure if it's a graveyard, or a portal... I wouldn't only think of a pyramid as a tomb, pyramids strike me more as "initiation chambers".
I guess it's up to us to see this in a way that supports the whole and ecourages integration.
Then we can get on with (the journey) what is beyond.


There is an amazing book written in 1956 by a guy named Rodney Collin
called "The Theory of Celestial Influence".
I gave away every copy I ever owned and don't have it at the moment, so I can't tell you the publisher.
But it is a laymans Astro Physics book (I'm no genius, this book is quite intense for me) that "clearly and pretty simply" explains and shows the relationship between Macrocosm and Microcosm(above/below).

He shows that it's through "Harmonic Resonance" that we connect to celestial vibrations via "celestial bodies" in this dimension.
Similar to plucking 1 guitar string, and the other strings vibrate in resonance.
Like that, the Planets etc vibrate from a long way away (to us), relative to their interconnections, but without us really being aware, we (hopefully) "hum in concert, as one", and evolve as a consequence.
The Asteroids are also a big part of the chior, and us.

I guess it could be a bit "out there", but it's just a point of view I find appealing somehow.

Arian Maverick
03-07-2006, 01:30 AM
I guess it could be a bit "out there", but it's just a point of view I find appealing somehow.

I like it, too, Buai...but then again, Aquarians are known for their "out there" beliefs :mrgreen:

Aquarian Maverick