Venus And Pluto Aspects In Natal Chart [Archive]

Junke

06-14-2008, 10:49 PM

My sister has a Square between the two, but I don't think it hurts her much..
The only experiecence that can be related is when she was stalked by a former boyfriend that just couldn't let go.. She's not really masochistic at all, neither does she fear love..
But she might of worked through those issues already because of the Grand Fixed Square including Moon - Venus - Mars - Jupiter - Pluto , and depending on how you look at it, it could include the Sun.. but she also has a out of sign T - Square with Sun opposite Moon square Jupiter..
She does suffer from Manic Depression, but I think she's a well integrated person..

I have Venus sextile Pluto, so they work pretty well together. I have alot of Scorpio influences, but I'm not all that controlling.I can be obsessive, but that's just who I am. I'm still kinda young though, so my traits completely change from year to year, so Idk..

milkywaygirl

06-14-2008, 11:25 PM

i have venus pluto square natally, for me it manifests as a definite sense of fatedness in all my significant relationships. i am very good friends with all of my exes with a couple exceptions (am doing makeup for an ex's fiancee at his wedding this august). although there was always aspects of passion, desire, jealousy and very powerful emotional undercurrents, once i was able to get past that and heal after the demise of the relationships, i found in all my exes really good friends who i feel will be in my life for ever.

venus pluto for me has transformed my relationships, through death of one thing (a passionate love relationship), and the birth of something new, better and more real (true friendship).

Junke

06-14-2008, 11:47 PM

Alot of people consider Semi-Squares to be minor aspects, but I believe that it depends on the person.. A major life issue for me is my Sun - Venus semisquare..

A semi-square is considered to cause irritation between the two planets in aspect, not a full on crises like a square, but something more hidden due to the signs elemental relationship ( usually in signs that sextile eachother)..

So a Venus - Pluto semisquare would show that the need to feel close to another is irritated by the urge to penetrate to the core

that can be interpreted as " I like you, I really do" then a total reverse of affection, like ignoring the person or what not. I don't know..

I'd say it'd affect both the Home and your Love relationships due to the houses involved..

But why are you focusing on a Semi-Square when your Venus has other outer planets conjunct it?

Junke

06-15-2008, 12:05 AM

Oh alright..
It's not really a very afflicting aspect though

Conjunctions, due to their strength, can be both good and bad, especially with the Outer Planets involved, or conjunctions involving planets with different personalities.

milkywaygirl

06-15-2008, 12:53 AM

How did you do that? When?

Nice that you are friend with your exes.

well with my sun/moon/merc in pisces, i have little to no boundaries and a big capacity for forgiveness, so once the real immediate sore feelings were gone (read: a year or two, sometimes 3), we would eventually get back in touch. it was always awkward at first with all of them, trying to draw up new rules in a platonic relationship, but i knew that they wanted to stay close as much as i did. it was definitely difficult with a few of them to do this, but eventually in all cases we were able to finally be totally open and honest with one another and talk about our past relationship and its demise, and kind of heal from it, and laugh about it, and be thankful for it as an experience. and after that, it has been great relating with all of them. my current boyfriend isnt too big on the fact that my closest friends are my exes, but thats life!

Raindrops

06-15-2008, 03:29 PM

lifeisaprodigy

06-17-2008, 05:32 PM

stardust_seizures

06-25-2008, 08:49 AM

my (leo 7th house) venus squares pluto (scorpio midheaven); its my only venus aspect, but ive got pluto conjunct moon/sextile neptune.

i have no idea how this affects me lol. all i know is i have the least experience in the relationship/love department then anyone i know. its riddiculous. that could be my virgo/8th house though.

im not afraid of love; i just havnt found it yet.

watchman512

06-25-2008, 11:33 AM

Well i have a both Venus & its higher octave Neptune conj in Scorpio conj MC in the 10th,and sextile to Pluto in Virgo in the 7th House.But another major player is that my moon in Pisces in the 2nd trines this venusian energy.
I do have somewhat a fear of Love, and also fear of loosing love (if that can make sense). Venus & Neptune can cause me to see what others cannot see,but also be vunerable to others.But as for relationships with a memeber of the opposite sex,well lets say i have a rich and vivid imagination.

redwolf481

06-26-2008, 07:04 AM

redwolf481

06-26-2008, 07:11 AM

Hi!

I have Venus(taurus) in the first house in opposition to pluto(Scorpio) in the 7th house!

I've been with my current girlfriend for about four months now, but stuff was going on a year beforehand with her and it was basically like your typical soap drama. Lots of lieing, jealousy, flittering around with different people etc. It was not easy and both parties were at fault! :D

I had to go through some horrible experiences that I hope never happens again because they were too painful. However the painful experiences I plodded through did bring me strength, and it is of a sexual nature. I can't explain it so well but I can't be myself in a relationship unless I am dominating the other person, sounds weird and S&M doesn't it lol. I spoke to a professional astrologer about this, and she basically said something in a past life relationship died, and now it needs to be brought back to life and the only way this can be achieved is, as she put it, 'go through the underworld and back'. Apparently, whereever pluto is in the chart represents where your power is, but at the same time where your fear resides. 7th house pluto says that you fear relationship(s) may destroy you.

If anyone can shed more light on these aspects I'd be very grateful! :)

I am a gemini with libra rising and venus in taurus in the 8th(at the end of the 7th house) opposite pluto in scorpio in the first and I have mars in cancer

2 years ago I met a girl who worked at a bar with a friend of mine she was a cocktail waitress in school....when I met her there was something so familiar about her....I ended up working at that bar at first I ignored her and was trying to hit on the girl at a bar next door and she had a boyfriend anyway......she broke up with him and I remmeber one night standing on the steps looking at her among the crowd and it feeling like I was shot in the chest with a shotgun(it really does feel like you have been shot by cupid) and how intense the feelings between us both were and we were both so awkward around each other I said and did all the wrong things out of awkwardness and ended up hurting her feelings and we eventually both left the bar but...I have never gotten over it I wish for nothing else but to talk with her still...... the girl was a virgo with a pisces rising venus in scorpio conjunct pluto in scorpio in the 8th house and mars in capricorn that is only the begining to our aspects ......she may have a moon in scorpio too depending on her birthtime but I believe she has a moon in sadge....

Natasha

06-26-2008, 08:22 AM

I like how Liz Greene described Pluto Venus aspect in the Astrology of Fate.
For those with the book - refer to the chapter The Astrological Pluto - my page where Pluto Venus discussion starts is page 65
Liz describes the experiance of a Pluto Venus as a strong desire for intimacy and uniting as one psychically but this seems to be alusive for Pluto Venus
Triangles seem to happen for Pluto Venus
Pluto Venus cannot get enough of merging as one and wants the two circles to totally overlap so to speak.
Some key phrases in her description - reputation for broken marriages & triangles
Proud Passionate intense Loyal jealous possessive treacherous magnetic
This is not necessarily the person with the Pluto Venus tho - it can be acted out on the Pluto Venus person by a lover or someone they desire or who desires them.
Like any PLuto aspect to an inner planet in time one can come to terms with this aspect & embrace it as a positive attribute

Raindrops

06-26-2008, 12:42 PM

I just met someone with Venus Square Pluto by 0.0 degrees. Its the tightest aspect in their chart. Venus in Taurus.. Pluto in Leo.

They worked EXTREMELY hard to earn $300,000 a year... and yet are still working extremely hard to develope an idea that will bring them into the millons, so they can be "set for life."

I read that this aspect causes "obsessions" with trying to find security (in this case Venus is in Taurus and they want material security) because of their insecurity. Very interesting.

MidnightxPoison

05-04-2009, 11:24 AM

I have Venus square Pluto and I hate it. I've had so many problems with it. It didn't manifest as strongly in my childhood but now in my adulthood I can feel how it's slowly taking over me. I fall in love with guys whom I either cannot be with or it's just another short romance/affair. But get super obsessive.... and it's so unpleasant, especially since I know the other person probably doesn't even care as much. I just care WAY too much. I get extremely jealous easily and I've always been ashamed of it. I've never admitted it to anyone but I guess it's okay to say on an astrology forum.. lol.

Awakened_Pisces

05-04-2009, 12:12 PM

byjove

05-04-2009, 12:13 PM

Hi all! I've Venus trine Pluto...admittedly, it's a wide trine at 7deg but I'm frequently assured that it's relevant. Venus is exalted in Pisces (9th) with Pluto in domicile in Scorpio (5th). When I fall for a guy, it changes my world as I know it...it's an electric feeling which pulls us together, and I feel invincible...once it's been tasted, it cannot be put down...it's an intoxicating elixir you can't get enough of, an obsession. I wait out for this. Anything less is too superficial. I don't have it all easy though, with Saturn my 7th ruler pulling Venus and my AC ruler the Moon into a T-square...

MidnightxPoison

05-04-2009, 12:36 PM

Likewise Midnight, Born in '92. I have the same Venus-Pluto Square, Venus is in Aquarius. I feel like love eludes me when I chase it, and when I don't I feel miserable.

I just want a secure, loyal, powerful woman next to me. One I can give all of my affection to. One I can give my heart and soul and know that she herself is giving the same.

I actually hate knowing that I am more obsessed than the other person is. I just wish, just like you, that someone could love me and want me back with equal amount of.. well, obsession.. hehe. I know it sounds kinda wrong but in some twisted way that's the kind of love I seek. Maybe because when I know someone is as crazy about me as I am about another, it makes me feel secure. It just makes me feel really loved and wanted.

I was born in '88, by the way. Man.. this makes me wish I could meet a male with Venus square Pluto aspect in their chart, lol. :D

MidnightxPoison

05-04-2009, 12:40 PM

Anything less is too superficial.

Ooh, I can SO relate to that! I've turned down so many opportunities because of this. Either they seemed way too superficial to me or I'm just the one being picky (must be my Virgo Sun here playing a role too)...
When other teenagers were hanging out and girls had a countless number of ex-boyfriends, I was still holding on to my dream of finding "the perfect one".. basically, someone as intense and passionate as me. I want my relationships to be deeply meaningful.

Spungie

05-04-2009, 04:02 PM

It changes my world as I know it...it's an electric feeling which pulls us together, and I feel invincible...once it's been tasted, it cannot be put down...it's an intoxicating elixir you can't get enough of, an obsession. I wait out for this. Anything less is too superficial.

I know what you mean there, my DSC also falls on my north?? node. So the 'Lucky' (haha) Aquarius types can sometimes become exactly that. An addictive elixir.

I have Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in 4th, trine venus conjunct saturn and neptune in capricorn.

I find 99.9% of people dont 'tickle my fancy'. Even if there is sexual chemistry, ill Always find a reason not to get involved. The 1% that do, I will consider them to be the best thing ever created (I will still find an exuse why not to get involved). I will be so nervous that I can barely speak.

I find I attact opposite members of sex like a magnet, I can often sense the chemisty instantly, and I go into charm mode (I really cant help it, honestly, leo ASC doesnt help there) despite the fact I dont intend to go down that route. I would hate to lead someone on, and I cant have sex (good sex) with someone unless I have strong feelings for them.

And as most of you mention, sexual romantic relationships have to bee deep and meaningful, even if its a casual relationship.

[deleted graphic sex remarks since these are against forum rules - Moderator]

MidnightxPoison

05-04-2009, 05:43 PM

Whenever I hear Beyonce's "Crazy in Love" song I grin because I know she's got a hard Venus-Pluto aspect too. That song just describes exactly what I'm like when I fall in love.. I go mad.

hiimnotcool

05-04-2009, 11:29 PM

Yeah I have Venus square Pluto by 7 minutes. My closest aspect by far! And Pluto is in my 7th house so imagine that. With that said, I'm really not psycho in love relationships. Can get jealous but I think that's the case for everyone. Most of the time I don't even want to be involved with anyone because it's generally a waste of effort/time. But then I have Saturn in the 7th too. Might calm down the effects of the square. Anyways, I'll have to keep note of it and see how it plays out.

I have heard that people with venus square pluto are usually intriguing to the opposite sex though, like they have some mysterious magnetism about them. I have noticed whenever I go to the bar or something girls will come up to me. It's kind of nice LOL

MidnightxPoison

05-04-2009, 11:38 PM

I have heard that people with venus square pluto are usually intriguing to the opposite sex though, like they have some mysterious magnetism about them. I have noticed whenever I go to the bar or something girls will come up to me. It's kind of nice LOL

I know I attract the opposite sex quite a lot lately. But I've also heard that people of the same sex as you might feel wary of the sexuality you possess and what kind of affect it has on the opposite sex. A lot of women I've encountered, for example, were jealous or resentful of me.. sort of as if they felt this distrust towards me for being so in touch with my sensuality and feminine side. I had this female friend of mine once who was constantly worried that I'd get all the attention or attract her bf or something.. it was a bit frustrating because I don't intend on stealing other people's boyfriends, lol.

Claire19

05-06-2009, 01:56 AM

I wouldnt really bother with a semi square. I have Venus exact sextile to Pluto and only interested in intense love affairs even if short lived. Otherwise I wouldnt bother. I am rather obsessive but can deal with it and acknowledge it. Venus in Libra 8th house means I have a love of the occult, can earn money through insurance, taxes, affairs of the dead and attract inheritance and gifts through love and sex. Pluto in the 6th the workplace is an arena for love and sex and once again work with confidential matters, insurance, taxation. estate matters and criminal activities. Thoughts of being a sex worker when young but high class call girl not street prostitute. Leo influence.

Claire19

05-06-2009, 01:58 AM

Whenever I hear Beyonce's "Crazy in Love" song I grin because I know she's got a hard Venus-Pluto aspect too. That song just describes exactly what I'm like when I fall in love.. I go mad.

Jealousy and obsession no doubt a huge factor. But really isnt that what being in love is all about, It is crazy and we are rather insane when it happens. It is a biological chemical thing has been proved and is nature's way of getting us to breed. :)Sometimes there is an element of love/hate.

Cypocryphy

05-10-2009, 04:57 AM

Hello JJ:

What is your experience?

To be honest, I never placed any weight on this aspect. Out of curiosity, I searched the Internet for its meaning. I have Venus trine my Pluto with an orb of a bit over one degree. The relationship is extremely positive, and I must say, I am surprised by the definition provided by astrologyweekly.com because it is accurate. But what surprises me more is the amount of people replying who have this aspect squared. I find that odd. One would think there is a balance.

mahaira

05-11-2009, 08:49 AM

I'm Leo, Scorpio Rising with Cancer Venus (in the 8th house) square Pluto (Libra, 10th) conjunction North Node (Libra, 11th house). All my relationships, few in number perhaps, have been intense, karmic, I dare say. I never seem to get interested in anyone I don't "already know". I've never had problems starting a relationship (it must be my Venus trine Uranus (12th house) aspect :) I haven't experienced jealousy, but milder forms of obsession yes. Very often I feel (wonder) that the things I strongly desire are not at the same time the ones I really need. As if everything I get comes with a great price. I've learned my lesson very early concerning secret relationships (infidelity would be the right word). I'd managed to untie certain number of knots before I met my husband. Our marriage is based on honesty and mutual understanding. He knows that one person (Scorpio) has been in my life for the past 13 years and how important he is to me. Nothing's happening now between us (we lead separate lives, live in different countries even), but we're honest about our feelings too. I feel a strong bond, even though I know that we're not meant to be in this lifetime (could it be because our Saturns are in opposition, as well as my Sun and his Moon?). I think that, at least for me, this is the strongest manifestation of the Venus square Pluto aspect. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Claire19

05-12-2009, 07:33 AM

I Have Venus exact sextile to Pluto and am only into intense relationships.
It also bring a love of the occult and the mysterious and sometimes love from the past can be resurrected. It can bring healing qualities through experiencing personal crises and transformations and thus enable others to do survive and grow stronger. I also agree that the eternal love triangle is another influence with all the aspects between these two planets. Rape and obsession also abduction and stalking can be scenario with challenging aspects especially if involving Mars.

Vicious

05-15-2009, 03:51 AM

Venus-Pluto aspects: not all people who have them are whores, but all whores typically have strong Venus-Pluto aspects.

Claire19

05-15-2009, 06:37 AM

Obsessions, passion, intensity, inhibitions, masochistic tendencies, fear of love, magnetic...Etc. This is Venus square Pluto to me.

Also the eternal triangle with falling for someone not available or appropriate which causes great inner pain. Also a need to control the loved one and to be obsessive. Feelings are alway deep and intense. Lover may betray you or vice versa and you may find it very hard to let go even when you know it is all wrong.

Claire19

05-15-2009, 06:40 AM

Venus-Pluto aspects: not all people who have them are whores, but all whores typically have strong Venus-Pluto aspects.

Yes sex workers can have this combination along with Mars. Gaining money through sex essentially. I have Venus in Libra the 8th sextile Pluto and have thought of doing escort or call girl work in my youth. I have been offered gifts and money to have sex even when though not soliciting. Sexual partners have often given me gifts even though not expected or asked for.

Niplan

05-15-2009, 01:53 PM

Anytime I've seen venus conjunct or afflicting pluto, the guy usually has a problem with lust. I've seen three guy's charts like this and they were quite sexual (involved with prostitutes and meet random women for only sex).
A friend of mine also has this aspect. He doesnt seek women just for sex, but it is certainly a major theme in his relationships.
I have pluto venus trine, and i feel the same alot. It doesn't bother me though, or really hurt, since I just go with it. its how I am, but minus the whole prostitue thing and meeting random women, I like to get into their heads and conquer their effections, And then by the time i've actualy conqured their "lust" or affection, im not interested anymore, and ignore them, while i have them following me around. But then somehow, i manage to turn that into friendship, since i know everything about them, and they come to me with "love" advice questions or open up in that area alot to me.

However, i have been with one woman for 2 or 3 years now, and I have only cheated on her twice, and that was at the start, I haven't done anything like that in over a year, and its VERY hard not to give in and go have sex with the women i inhearently and inatley hit on.

I sound like a chavinistic male, but im not, because i feel horrible when i do it. So I have to force my self to remember what its like afterwards, in order to not do it.

but thats what a trine does, you do things without trying or realizing, its your natural state.

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Same subject side note;
Sometimes when i am doing something creative or studying etc. I will turn **** on in the background for the "audio" and when i need a break i just watch it for a few minutes then go back to using it as white noise. I think though that also is the effect of my mercury in such a tight cluster to venus aspecting pluto though.
As well as "dirty stories" are more interesting then **** or even sex sometimes.

Roseapple

06-02-2009, 02:10 PM

I have Venus Square Saturn in my natal chart and as far as I can remember, I was always the OTHER woman in the relationship. The men that I get involved with were either in a stable/serious relationship or worse, married! They usually end up leaving their partners or break up their own relationships and try to have a relationship with me.
I feel guilty after the whole episode of me coming in between their relationships that I withdraw my commitment soon after the men get serious.
It does not help that I have a Venus Uranus aspect in my chart as well, although it is not a stressful aspect.
I can never make up my mind when it comes to relationships!
I want someone so badly and pursue and show them genuine interest and then when they reciprocate their feelings,I get scared of being tied down to a normal, routine relationship and leave.
The only person that I really had a soulmate connection was with a man who had a Venus Conjunct Pluto aspect and I have never gotten over him.
Interestingly enough, all the men that I was involved in these love triangles had Venus Pluto aspects(soft and hard aspects) in their charts as well!

divine g

06-02-2009, 04:02 PM

I have a t-square with venus square n.n./pluto square moon(cancer/libra,capricorn respectively)..all i can say, its pretty painful when you fall in love, and worse than death when the relationship's over. intense fear about the other person cheating. i do find that that usually i attract someone just as intense as me.(ex has pluto in scorpio square venus in aquarius sq. mars in taurus)

Definitely feel that past life karma brought all of my major relationships into my life. As a youth, I guess I sensed this and avoided relationships and just wanted sex with no strings attached. Now it's the opposite. It has to have both elements, so that narrows down prospects so much that when you do find that one that brings both, you hold on pretty obsessively. And yes it is a good feeling when the other person seems just as obsessed.

I was researching venus square pluto yesterday and I found this pic that best describes the intensity of this aspect. Kind of like, the image of guns and roses..e.g. i made a joke about having a secret lover to my ex, and she said "i'll kill you"..kind of joking but i got the feeling she wasnt lol..and the thing about the square is, that kind of intense love makes me feel secure(venus in cancer) that's the kind of painful love, almost fatal attraction that venus sq.pluto is about. 5286

i think the persephone in hades myth is also a great image for this square. almost as if you want to keep your love locked down for fear of losing it. Another phrase that captures venus squ. pluto is the marriage vow,"til death do us part"! Kind of scary, and a bit excessive isnt it? No wonder so many people are scared to "take the plunge"(myself included)
:D

byjove

06-02-2009, 05:35 PM

I have pluto venus trine...

However, i have been with one woman for 2 or 3 years now, and I have only cheated on her twice, and that was at the start, I haven't done anything like that in over a year, and its VERY hard not to give in and go have sex with the women i inhearently and inatley hit on.

:eek: :eek: :eek: Would you say that normally goes hand in hand with a positve connection between these two? I've never heard of that effect with these two in positive contact, and I've Venus in 9th Pisces trine Pluto 5th Scorpio, they're quite strong in those positions.

byjove

06-02-2009, 05:40 PM

I have Venus Square Saturn in my natal chart ...
I want someone so badly and pursue and show them genuine interest and then when they reciprocate their feelings,I get scared of being tied down to a normal, routine relationship and leave.
The only person that I really had a soulmate connection was with a man who had a Venus Conjunct Pluto aspect and I have never gotten over him.
Interestingly enough, all the men that I was involved in these love triangles had Venus Pluto aspects(soft and hard aspects) in their charts as well!

Me too, me too. So this really is a Venus-Pluto thing? Though I've the Venus-Saturn square in common here too.

dreamtimez

06-02-2009, 05:46 PM

What about Venus sextile Pluto ? :)

sherrytatiana

07-26-2009, 08:46 PM

Ok, I would love to know more about how a conjunction might be expressed positively. I just created a thread with this post, but this thread seems a logical place to get some ideas...

I am fascinated by the effects pluto can have on an individual. There has been a lot of discussion on how harsh pluto aspects might manifest, but comparatively less discussion on how the issues they reflect can be resolved, leading to a life that reflects the most evolved expression of the energy of venus or any other planet that finds itself in aspect with pluto.

I happen to have a lot of pluto in my chart. Pluto in libra is conjunct mars and venus in the 12th house, close to the ascendant and in aspect to lots of my planets. This manifests as strong, often overpowering relationships which are more like obsessions. The relationships are dominating but do not ever fully manifest themselves (owing to the idealistic quality of libra?). Either they are never consummated, are affairs, or are just intense attractions (either my attraction to another or vice versa) which never become relationships. It's all getting a little annoying for me, and I am wondering how such an intense pluto presence can be worked through so that it can have a more comfortable or at least a more fulfilling expression. Any ideas?

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?;...rN-u1248634055

sherrytatiana

07-26-2009, 09:37 PM

Ooh, I can SO relate to that! I've turned down so many opportunities because of this. Either they seemed way too superficial to me or I'm just the one being picky (must be my Virgo Sun here playing a role too)...
When other teenagers were hanging out and girls had a countless number of ex-boyfriends, I was still holding on to my dream of finding "the perfect one".. basically, someone as intense and passionate as me. I want my relationships to be deeply meaningful.
Ah yes. I am the same. Does this change with time?

Here's my chart, fyi. Lots of conjunctions. http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?;lang=;gm=a1;nho2=;btyp=2;mth=at;sday=26 ;smon=7;syr=2009;hsy=-1;zod=;orbp=;rs=0;ast=&nhor=1&cid=7kafileRar2rN-u1248634055

Seaoglass

07-26-2009, 11:00 PM

I have Venus opposing Pluto (loose opposition) and share most of the attributes noted here...Intensity is a must and the need to merge with my partner are very important. I went through a period of not wanting to be tied down, but wanting to be so close at the same time. I think I have finally passed that stage and can embrace the energy for what it is...thanks to a little astrological insight and others like yourselves who have stories of your own. I've noticed that I attract people with V/P contacts, and those who are closest to me have either that aspect, or Venus in Scorpio. We feel things much more intensely than most and need to get to the bottom of things...sometimes by destroying the people we love, just to build more intensity to love them even more. If you haven't read this post, it is a must for VP ppl. Especially the part about obsession with looks and looking good (I had a good laugh)!

http://chirotic.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/venus-pluto-love-and-survival/

wilsontc

07-27-2009, 03:52 PM

sherry,

You asked:
Ok, I would love to know more about how a conjunction might be expressed positively...I happen to have a lot of pluto in my chart...This manifests as strong, often overpowering relationships which are more like obsessions...I am wondering how such an intense pluto presence can be worked through so that it can have a more comfortable or at least a more fulfilling expression. Any

:pluto: is about control, so the challenge is to learn to share control in the relationship, where you get to control something and the other person gets to control something. Then you both are in control of the relationship.

In control,

Tim

scorpio!scorpio!scorpio!

07-28-2009, 02:33 PM

Niplan

07-29-2009, 12:16 AM

:eek: :eek: :eek: Would you say that normally goes hand in hand with a positve connection between these two? I've never heard of that effect with these two in positive contact, and I've Venus in 9th Pisces trine Pluto 5th Scorpio, they're quite strong in those positions.

I don't view any of the aspects results as "normal" its just individual to the chart.

Katyusha

03-30-2010, 07:53 AM

dperez3894

03-30-2010, 02:30 PM

I've got Venus in the 7th house opposing Pluto in the 1st house. Saturn has been transiting my Pluto since last August by going forward, then retrograding in the last couple of weeks and going forward again sometime this summer. Maybe someone can give an interpretation of this.

Claire19

03-31-2010, 02:26 AM

I have Venus on 9th house cusp in Taurus oppositioning Pluto in Scorpio on 3rd housecusp :bandit:. Venus is also trining Uranus conjunct Neptune in 4th.
Born in '93, and I haven't had arelationship with a guy ever. :unsure: I seem to get a lot of attention from guys due to my understanding nature (Sun, Mercury in Cancer) and my ''magnetic appearance (Libra ASC:love:, Moon in Scorpio , Venus in Taurus) but just don't know how to ''flirt'' with a guy and , yeah, I think I'll die alone, because sometimes I can get soo shy!:tongue:
I could also call myself bi-sexual, because the beauty and elegance of woman appeal to me :love:. Venus Pluto opposition makes me very jealous and my emotions are sometimes a little too deep:andy:.
You are very young yet and yes you could be bisexual with a Venus trine Uranus but not necessarily. You are very sensual and intense and as you mature you wil learn to handle these strong emotions.:love: I am sure you are very attractive and I would just take your time and wait for someone that you feel really something for. I think love always involves jealousy, it is part of the deal. Taurus is a loyal and steady sign and looks for endurance in relationships that are based on material security and practicality. You will be also be rather possessive. THose with Libra rising can attract both sexes and you may very well experiment.

Katyusha

03-31-2010, 07:56 AM

You are very young yet and yes you could be bisexual with a Venus trine Uranus but not necessarily. You are very sensual and intense and as you mature you wil learn to handle these strong emotions.:love: I am sure you are very attractive and I would just take your time and wait for someone that you feel really something for. I think love always involves jealousy, it is part of the deal. Taurus is a loyal and steady sign and looks for endurance in relationships that are based on material security and practicality. You will be also be rather possessive. THose with Libra rising can attract both sexes and you may very well experiment.

Thankies, Claire. You are absolutely right, I imagine my future boyfriend/husband to be somewhat rich, but then again, who doesn't. I sometimes hate the steadiness of my Taurus Venus, because my Libra wants to play and flirt , but I simply can't get involved in one night stands, I have to know the person. :D

byjove

03-31-2010, 12:15 PM

I was researching venus square pluto yesterday and I found this pic that best describes the intensity of this aspect. Kind of like, the image of guns and roses..e.g. i made a joke about having a secret lover to my ex, and she said "i'll kill you"..kind of joking but i got the feeling she wasnt lol..and the thing about the square is, that kind of intense love makes me feel secure(venus in cancer) that's the kind of painful love, almost fatal attraction that venus sq.pluto is about. 5286

i think the persephone in hades myth is also a great image for this square. almost as if you want to keep your love locked down for fear of losing it. Another phrase that captures venus squ. pluto is the marriage vow,"til death do us part"! Kind of scary, and a bit excessive isnt it? No wonder so many people are scared to "take the plunge"(myself included)
:D

Yes...I've seen this...my sister has precisely that problem...it can lead to physical violence! I find it quite shocking....and it looks like a horrible spell...to be so attracted to someone...but to have such tremendous difficulties...I just think...why stay together if you're not good together? It's a mighty dark spell...:ninja:

Claire19

04-01-2010, 01:04 AM

Obsessions, passion, intensity, inhibitions, masochistic tendencies, fear of love, magnetic...Etc. This is Venus square Pluto to me.
Fear and inhibition really come from Saturn Venus contacts.

Claire19

04-01-2010, 01:14 AM

Midnightxpoison and sherrytatiana - I can totally relate. I have Virgo Venus (12th house) conjunct Virgo Pluto (12th house) 0 degree 47. I also am very picky and still searching for "the perfect one" with which I can have an intense, passionate and deep relationship.

There are a lot of men attracted to me, but hardly ever do I find one that gives me that "vibe". Recently I have felt it with one guy, but apparently there is a lot of scary, intense karmic aspects in our synastry :w00t:

I'm getting ready to throw in the towel :sad:

I'm reading Jeff Green's Pluto book for insight.
Liz Greene also has a great book on Pluto.
I think that most of us are only attracted to very few. Just as well.
I have Mars Venus sextile Pluto and only ever wanted intense and deep relationships too. Okay they are painful sometimes but there you are. It is best to wait for that special one rather than compromise. It is all a matter of timing and look at your 5th house transits for lovers and the 7th for potential partners.

multiple

04-03-2010, 01:58 PM

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Mellow1_31

04-03-2010, 02:35 PM

I was going to post here in this forum, but saw this post already open.

I have a friend who's chart has a Venus-Pluto square. Has relationships for sex, but I think because of his upbringing he tries to make it appear like he's trying for a real relationship with each chick he meets. He really likes to attract women that are bitchy and verbally abusive towards him. Or they prey upon his vulnerabilities. He tries before he buys - if you get what I mean. But a lot of his ex's have become friends, and better relationships formed.

I just had one question though - if his Venus is in this 10th House/Cancer, and Pluto cusping or right on the 1st House line/Libra - conjuncting Saturn just a degree into the 2nd house Libra, how would that affect a personality?

Here's the chart - http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_15_mg_c.39767.8868.gif&res=100&va=&cid=huxfileMIwIsX-u1233627438

Thanks for any help!
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gemini59

04-03-2010, 02:58 PM

Mellow1...I think I can address that for you...saturn has a restraining affect, a restricting affect. If it also squares Venus it gives a 'coldness' in love.

A lot can depend on the sign each is in and too if any has progressed out of range. As an example the following:

I knew a man with Venus 22 Leo conjunct Pluto at 29 degrees Leo square Saturn at 29 degrees Scorpio. Focused a lot of his energy into work. A psychologist asked him once "what are running away from?" He had affairs but not one nighters but long term relationships. He felt his wife did not treat him as a man but something to be managed. Sex became more a battle ground I suspect where he felt punished and would punish by withholding.
Very intense person and very conflicted.

Mellow1_31

04-04-2010, 12:51 PM

Gemini... thank you :) The coldness in love or in the relationship is pretty accurate! He has ups and downs of coldness - completely detached and allows himself to be treated like a child, and really affectionate and loving. As his mom states, sometimes he just doesn't have any sense. He's either everyone "go away" or "everyone stay here." He had a terrible accident and is on pain meds and last night he just seemed to close me up - and we're really good friends. Part of me knows I can't take it personally and not be hurt by it, but the other side of me is emotionally exhausted by the cold spells, because they happen without the pain meds.

I also have a Pluto in Libra so I have that all or nothing thing too. But my natal Pluto does not aspect my natal Venus at all. But Pluto sextiles some planets, and squares my natal Cappie moon.

Here is my chart - http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_24gw_01_deanna_foster_2010428.45479.3205 9.gif&res=100&va=&cid=huxfileMIwIsX-u1233627438

What is the effect of Pluto sextiles to Mercury, Mars and Neptune?

Thanks! :)

sassaqua

07-06-2011, 03:04 AM

Yes...I've seen this...my sister has precisely that problem...it can lead to physical violence! I find it quite shocking....and it looks like a horrible spell...to be so attracted to someone...but to have such tremendous difficulties...I just think...why stay together if you're not good together? It's a mighty dark spell...:ninja:

Yes! I have jus extrapulated myself from a violent relationship! He has:

Venus inconjunct Saturn
Venus square Pluto
Saturn opposite Mars
Mars square Moon

:w00t:

What a combination, hey?

The Venus Pluto thing..... cruel, vindictive, power struggles - all underhanded, betrayal, obsessive compulsive need to plot and scheme to "win".

Omg, it was frightening, I still have nightmares - seriously.

I don't have any Pluto aspects to planets (it is conjunct my mc only), so I was unprepared for such strategies. I'm more of an upfront and open person. I didn't expect that all my openness would be twisted, and used against me in any way possible, and often with the plain intention to just hurt me :(

And, not just hurt but - c o m p l e t e l y a n n i h i l a t e

Still so sad. Sad I ever got caught up in such a dynamic when I could've been doing more worthwhile things - like helping others :love:

divine g

07-06-2011, 05:13 AM

For some reason, this thread is making me think of Phil Hartman, the SNL actor who was killed by his wife, with a gun. Also, Lorena Bobbit who cut off her husband's member, got into a car with it, and threw it in a field. Pluto rules deep issues, and I guess, also rules the deep biological programming that drives people insane when they fall in and out of love.

I did a quick check of charts of well known promiscuous women, including some I know, and sure enough out of 9 charts, all of them either had a Venus/Pluto conjunction, sextile or opposition. So far, no trines! Half of them are definitely into sex work, the others that I know, seem addicted to money and sex to the degree that they may be capable of going into sex work(that is, if they aren't already, and no one knows about it, which is very possible with Pluto.)

Tiger Woods had his natal Venus at 28deg Scorpio, and I would count that as a Venus/Pluto conjunction, hence his sex addiction. Ironically, a female who I'm presently interested in, (who seems to have put some sort of magic spell on me), has Venus on that exact same degree. She has Pluto in the same sign Scorpio, 17 degrees away, and hidden in her 12th, making her very secretive. Secretive to the point where I just very recently figured out she's an exotic dancer, not just a model, as I thought for the past year. She is so mysterious and so intense, she's literally the only girl I want in the world at this moment, lol. Pluto in her 12th could signal a hidden obsession with sex, and I think a hidden obsession with me!

I have Pluto in Libra, and I think that would also count as a Venus/PLuto conjunction for my whole generation, and I've had only 3, but pretty intense and explosive relationships, that seemed destined. All 3 of them aggressively pursued me. It seems that I have a strong sexual pull on women, and had it even as a child. It seems like it would be cool, but it can be pretty scary, (as the Lorena Bobbitt example shows). Pluto rules past lives, so some karmic relationships bring extreme reactions that may seem irrational, but that rage could have been building up over millenia! Why else would a woman go to that extreme? John Bobbit probably had cheated on her for literally the 1,000th time, and she had just about enough of it.

Sure enough, although I find tons of women physically attractive, and they are attracted to me as well, I never waste time with small talk. I t's either an instant, deep, uncontrollable gravitational pull from the beginning, hinting at the fact we were together in a past life---or not.

sassaqua

07-06-2011, 05:27 AM

Is your Pluto making aspect to your Venus?

"and I think a hidden obsession with me!"

Sounds like you wishing it to be so :lol:

divine g

07-06-2011, 05:45 AM

Is your Pluto making aspect to your Venus?

"and I think a hidden obsession with me!"

Sounds like you wishing it to be so :lol:

No, actually I wouldnt believe it, it took me a long time to realize it, to the point where, if you were watching my life like a movie, the whole audience would be like, duh! She's way into you!

Yes I have Venus in Cancer(12th), with kind of a wide square to Pluto in Libra(3rd) with a 10degree orb. But I have had 3 of my last 3 major relationships end very badly, in explosive plutonian fashion, with all 3 s/o making a scene at my house at the break up. Intense break up to make up patterns with all of them, each one was like deja vu...

Signs that this girl is secretly obsessed with me? Well, from our first interaction, we fought like a married couple, and it was all over a misunderstanding. She wouldnt follow me back on twitter, but she would retweet and reword all the things I was saying. Like a fool, I took it the wrong way, and accused her of copying my words, when in reality she was sending me signals to talk to her directly (which I was too shy to do, Venus in Cancer).

So, since then, she has not talked to anyone else on there, and has suddenly been interested in everything I like..At first she was just acting like a dumb model (and I think I alluded to that fact) but now she's into seeking knowledge, studying astrology, commenting on the phases of the moon, being healthy and eating right, and still sends subtle hints that she found something it's hard for her to let go of. Like I said, she has Venus in Scorpio, so she she's very hard to figure out, but her vibes towards me are so intense, and so persistent I can feel it.

I spoke of her here before. She first came into my awareness when she sent me an invite to a party where she lives in California, and Im on the other side of the country! Mind you, she invited me to this party on the other side of the country, and we never even spoke before that. Again, her Venus in Scorpio makes her seduction style very secretive, so it took me a long time to realize it. Her South Node also conjuncts my Pluto in Libra exactly, and her Sun squares my Pluto. I can go on and on...

So contrary to me wanting to believe it, I actually didnt want to believe it! But her intensity is so scary, Im kind of scared to even pursue this girl, and she is so secretive and mysterious, I dont even know where to start..Either way, she's quite a Plutonian gal (Scorpio Rising), and Im pretty sure she's still into me, as, I can also be pretty mysterious myself! But Im trying to figure out if she could potentially be a crazy psycho stalker chick, but she sure is a beautiful crazy psycho stalker chick. I guess I have a thing for "femme fatales"?:unsure::love::bandit:

divine g

07-06-2011, 06:11 AM

As for my exes, they all have Pluto Venus aspects.

The first had Venus/Pluto conjunct in Libra,(her Venus conjunct my Pluto,totally exploded on me in the end,never spoke again)
The second had Venus/Pluto sextile (her Venus sextile my Pluto, totally obsessed w/getting married and having babies)
The 3rd one had Venus sharply squaring Pluto (very controlling, this one, her Venus trining my Pluto, so I kind of let it happen, but only to a certain degree.)

My Pluto/Venus natal square can be blamed for all this tension in my relationships. Lot of jealousy on both sides, lot of breakups to makeups, and also a sense that the relationships were destined, and karmic. My first impression of my 3rd gf was, she was like the 1st two together in one person.! Not surprisingly, the exact same things happened with her as the first two...

desperateneptune

07-06-2011, 03:04 PM

venus pluto conjunction in libra in the 5th house-what happens with me is that i separate sex from love-for some reason the more sexual the relationship gets the less i can ''love'' the person. I usually respond to someone with intensity but after a while i tend to lose interest and i think that -without even realizing at the time- i have many times used someone's ''obsessive feelings'' towards me to my advantage :devil:

Skillcoil

07-06-2011, 04:22 PM

It seems that I have a strong sexual pull on women, and had it even as a child. It seems like it would be cool, but it can be pretty scary

I think this is more of a Venus in Cancer trait, rather than Venus/Pluto aspects.

I have Venus in the 7th house, sextile Pluto in the 8th house. Venus trine Pluto is one of my favorite aspects.

dreamtimez

07-06-2011, 04:50 PM

I have Venus sextile Pluto :smile: yes, obsession is a problem. But it wears off with time ... :sleeping:

sassaqua

07-06-2011, 11:53 PM

-without even realizing at the time- i have many times used someone's ''obsessive feelings'' towards me to my advantage :devil:

desperateneptune, can you explain further, and in detail how you use someone elses feelings to your advantage please?

Appreciate your honesty btw :)

divine g

07-07-2011, 05:33 AM

I think this is more of a Venus in Cancer trait, rather than Venus/Pluto aspects.

I have Venus in the 7th house, sextile Pluto in the 8th house. Venus trine Pluto is one of my favorite aspects.

Skillcoil, long time no see! :smile:

Yes, you're right, I think the Venus in Cancer brings out the nurturing and procreative aspects in women. So I've often had older women flirt aggressively with me, even my mom's friends!

But the Venus-Pluto aspect has a bit more of a sinister undercurrent to it with the Plutonian type of woman, or the "Scorpion Woman" as Ron Burgundy would call it. That Venus in Scorpio woman I mentioned above just came to mind.

Just now on twitter, a trending topic is, "you know they're stalking you when...", and sure enough, it touched on a couple of things she has done. I forgot to mention, there's this thing called "subtweeting" where you dont mention the specific person by name, but speak to them subliminally.

As I said before, for some reason she wouldnt follow me back, but as soon as I "subtweeted", she got mad and "subtweeted" back! :lol:

Venus/Pluto in a square or conjunction could indicate a problem with stalkerish tendencies. It's kind of cute if you think the person is just shy, but then again, with Pluto's love of power, there may be ulterior motives. So, again, didnt want to seem arrogant when I said this girl may be obsessed with me, bc I dont know if its in a good way or not.

Also, "Elaine" from Seinfeld has a new show, the Adventures of old Christine where she's kind of obsessed with the black actor Blair Underwood. Her Venus is in opposition to Pluto. She plays a very intensely sexual woman, to the point of being neurotic, on the show, and I think she plays the role well because, according to her chart, it's close to how she is in real life!

My Venus is now sextile my Pluto, but still hiding in my 12th. Seems to be playing out like I can only see the girl of my dreams in my dreams:sleeping:

Oh, transiting Pluto is also opposing my natal Venus, where I just had my Venus return. Bout to draw up a chart, see what's cookin!

desperateneptune

07-07-2011, 06:01 AM

desperateneptune, can you explain further, and in detail how you use someone elses feelings to your advantage please?

Appreciate your honesty btw :)

for example a person can not take no for an answer and keeps on bothering you, please forgive me mpla mpla, or give me a chance, or i am not leaving if you dont come with me ....you can either go nuts and be haunted by his harrasment or you can use all these powerful feelings.. for example when he says i would do anything for you...well u give him a chance to make his statement true....again dont get the wrong idea - for me it is very painful to express selfish or cruel behaviour but there are people out there that leave you with no other choice...

sassaqua

07-07-2011, 06:09 AM

oh I get thje gist. That's cool, i get your position, and there is no judgement here. We all do something sometimes to get an advantage :)

Tell us more :cool:

Skillcoil

07-10-2011, 07:03 AM

Skillcoil, long time no see! :smile:

Yes, you're right, I think the Venus in Cancer brings out the nurturing and procreative aspects in women. So I've often had older women flirt aggressively with me, even my mom's friends!

Hey divine g :) do you have a Venus-Saturn aspect? With your Plutonian romantic interest, isnt lilith also involved? perhaps she would somehow reply to an image you twittered, like a picture of a spider or something that is relevant to both of you.

divine g

07-10-2011, 07:59 AM

Hey divine g :) do you have a Venus-Saturn aspect? With your Plutonian romantic interest, isnt lilith also involved? perhaps she would somehow reply to an image you twittered, like a picture of a spider or something that is relevant to both of you.

Well, that's the thing, she doesn't reply to anybody! Ever since our "subliminal" exchange, she tweets a lot less, so it's like you have to try an figure out what's on her mind without her saying. I had a Scorpio gf like that, who would expect me to "tune in" to her feelings. Im naturally a Gemini, so I need words, but as my Sun progressed into Cancer, Im learning how to communicate without words, and I think that's what Venus-Pluto wants. Found a great link for Venus in Scorpio that says

"Venus here cannot stand relating to others in a superficial way, and they desire a deep, intense, passionate union...There isn’t anything lukewarm about Scorpio's love, and they know how to read lovers on an emotional and soul level. With Venus in the sign of Scorpio you're ardent and passionate in your primary relationship, and insists that your partner returns the intensity of your emotions."

I'm used to women being direct with me when they're interested. Even when unspoken, I can tell, but this Venus-Scorpio was super-secretive, which is Pluto's style. But she really found a way to communicate her interest/fixation with me on a psychic level, which is hard to explain. I think Lilith played a big part in that, (hers conjuncts my Venus in 12th), as it was a dream-like experience where I kind of "felt" her presence, etherically.

But Pluto also rules deep, psychic experiences, and psychological penetration. Pluto is also very secretive! Very mistrusting of others, and very controlling. So, all of this has been taking some time for my intellect to understand, as I've had to shut off my logical left brain to understand this woman. Thing is, this is what makes it interesting! Very interesting, as Pluto/Scorpio can be the master seductress.

Its funny you mention the image of the spider, why is that? Because she actually tweeted an image of a spider on her nails for Halloween, saying "you have now been weaved into my magical web" or something. I also get a really wounded child vibe about her(Chiron in Gemini). With my own Pluto-Venus square going, Im also weary of the opposite sex. So I misread her secretive, stalker-ish approach to getting my attention as some sort of covert, ill-intentioned power play. But it was really just a way of checking me out quietly,without getting hurt, testing to see if I also sensed the deeper connection. Sure enough, it worked, as we both elicited a powerful emotional response from each other with that 1st exchange.

Either way, Ive built up the courage to flirt with her a bit, albeit indirectly, and she flirted back, indirectly:biggrin:. I understand her style more, as I've been studying Venus in Scorpio, so I know the best approach is to show an equal amount of intensity in pursuing her, and slowly earn her trust. I kind of like the Plutonian, "til death do us part" kind of love, bc it shows loyalty and I hate betrayal. Dont want to get sidetracked, so I'll just conclude by saying Venus/Pluto aspects are probably the most powerful for relationships, and will probably include a lot of stalking, obsessing, underhanded tactics in seduction, where both will be playing for keeps!

ps no natal venus/saturn aspect in my natal, but they are in the same sign of Leo in my progressed chart right now..I think the older women thing is my Cap Moon, opposite my Venus

divine g

07-10-2011, 08:03 AM

Obsessions, passion, intensity, inhibitions, masochistic tendencies, fear of love, magnetic...Etc. This is Venus square Pluto to me.

This hits the nail right on the head, and has basically been my experience, in a nutshell. I think the saying "Pain is love" is the Venus square Pluto mantra. The fear of love comes from knowing the dark side of it, and how hard those powerful emotions are to control. So one may keep themselves from going any further once they get that 1st feeling of "love"..

Fragoso

12-25-2011, 02:54 PM

Hello.
Here i have venus in scorpio conjuncting pluto in scorpio.
Yeah...It's a pretty intense combinations. My feelings are just so intense, in love affairs. The intensity is so big that I can hate the same person that one I loved. They are always mixed. Things are always in extremes.

Obsessions, passion, intensity, inhibitions, masochistic tendencies, fear of love, magnetic...Etc. This is Venus square Pluto to me.

I agree with what is in bold (for the conjunction, since Steeler has the square.) In my case, the conjunction it's in 5th house. I consider myself very magnetic and charismatic... These 2 planets also trine ascendant. My physical presence always had a big impact on other.... Some people would be attracted by me, others would start hate me. Again on extremes.

But on the other side, This aspect can bring very deep romances but it's you who can chose if you wanna lose yourself in paranoia and non-senses ideas OR if you wanna live things to the fullest.

Fragoso

Queen-Mab

09-11-2012, 06:13 PM

I m madly in love with someone I have pluto conjunction with his venus, he has his sun conjunction my uranus.
We had 3 amazing months then he became cold , however stayed always by my side and we even traveled together. There s a intense love feeling there but so weird he doesnt want to get intimate anymore. I m sad but I accepted it in good spirits till I found out yesterday after nine months he went on a date with someone. My world crumbled down, he s very sorry and he still keeps close it s like we cant separate from each other.

I had a bond with him almost immediately, I m aries rising scorpio he is scorpio rising sagitarius. I m just so sad something in in the middle blocking us of being together as a man and woman. Please if any of you would care to take a look in the positions bellow and let me know your thoughts I would appreciate.

My heart is struggling at the moment , but I decided to surrender to this love and wait even if I have to wait for my next life.

Sun trine Venus 12 Scorpio 52'56" 14 Pisces 25' 1" 1.55

Sun conjunction Uranus 12 Scorpio 52'56" 20 Scorpio 10'16" 7.3

Sun sextile North Node 12 Scorpio 52'56" 15 Virgo 58'20" 3.1
S Sun square Lilith 12 Scorpio 52'56" 19 Leo 58'23" 7.1
S Sun opposition Chiron 12 Scorpio 52'56" 8 Taurus 6'43" 4.77
S Sun trine Ceres 12 Scorpio 52'56" 18 Pisces 37'38" 5.75
S Moon trine Mars 7 Leo 17'45" 2 Aries 27' 2" 4.83
S Moon conjunction Jupiter 7 Leo 17'45" 29 Cancer 22'11" 7.92
S Moon square Chiron 7 Leo 17'45" 8 Taurus 6'43" 0.82
S Moon trine Juno 7 Leo 17'45" 11 Aries 31'28" 4.23
S Mercury trine Jupiter 5 Sagittarius 39'20" 29 Cancer 22'11" 6.28
A Mercury square Saturn 5 Sagittarius 39'20" 7 Virgo 48'51" 2.15
S Venus opposition Sun 24 Libra 40'10" 19 Aries 43'45" 4.95
S Venus square Jupiter 24 Libra 40'10" 29 Cancer 22'11" 4.7
A Venus sextile Neptune 24 Libra 40'10" 20 Sagittarius 24'34" 4.27
A Venus conjunction Pluto 24 Libra 40'10" 17 Libra 47'46" 6.88
S Venus sextile Lilith 24 Libra 40'10" 19 Leo 58'23" 4.7
S Venus trine Pallas 24 Libra 40'10" 22 Aquarius 21'43" 2.32
S Mars opposition Mars 5 Libra 28'17" 2 Aries 27' 2" 3.02